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From: "Thomas Mueller" <tmueller AT bluegrass DOT net>
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Subject: Re: GNU Emacs DOS (DJGPP) port converts upper-ASCII characters to ASCII 127
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DOS command-line program for SMTP, POP3 and NNTP is UKA_PPP.  Current version is
1.7x2, aka NOS-BOX 2.05.   URL is

http://mvmpc200.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/~mvmpc9/index.htm

This is a 16-bit program or suite of programs.  There is also a Win32 front end
UKAW which I never tried.  "Official" way is to run from the menu, which
includes a dialer.  Dialer does not work on my new computer.  Actually the
dialer might work, but EPPPD or EPPPDD fails to make the IP connection.  Only
DOS-based PPP program I have got to work on new computer is LSPPP

http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/lsppp/

There are also some 32-bit DOS Internet applications in WATT-32

http://www.bgnett.no/~giva/

From my earlier post >> and Eli Zaretskii > :

>> I wouldn't see any advantage trying to invoke this
>> program from within Emacs

>The advantage is that you use the same editor for writing the message,
>quoting the messages you reply to, spell-check the message with Emacs
>built-in support for Ispell, and have access to all the other powerful
>Emacs features related to email, like full control of the message headers,
>for example.

You can still prepare the outgoing messages in Emacs and exit to get to the
mail/news program.  Author of UKA_PPP anticipated Yarn or Crosspoint as
mail/news readers, was presumably not thinking of Emacs.

It appears the mouse works much better in DOS Emacs than in Linux non-X, though
I think Emacs in Linux/Unix would work much better in X than non-X.

>> I tried w3 just to see if it would work when connected to the Internet.  I was
>> prompted for the URL, but I got the error message that w3 was missing.

>Right, that's because w3 isn't part of the standard distribution.  But it
>doesn't work in the DJGPP port anyway (no built-in network support,
>remember?), so don't run out looking for it on the net.

If I run out looking for w3 on the net, it will be for Linux and/or NetBSD, not
DOS.  File browse-url.el and browse-url-w3.el both truncate to BROWSE-U.EL where
long file names are not supported; one would kill the other.  Not really a
barrier, since browse-url-w3.el could be renamed.

>Not every triangle you see means that there's an ASCII-127 character in
>the buffer.  "C-u C-x =" is one way of telling.  Emacs uses ASCII-127 for
>both the display and conversion of unsupported characters.  When only the
>display is unsupported, the character in the file is not modified, but
>just remapped for display purposes.

But you say Emacs 21.x would not convert to ASCII-127 and save that way?  A
file might have parts in Latin-1 and other parts not in Latin-1.

>> Printer drivers would be another issue.  My printer has no support for Korean,
>> Japanese or Chinese but could print a graphic file.

>Use the ps-print-buffer command, it outputs a PostScript file that
>handles all the fonts you can find on SimTel.NET.  If your printer
>doesn't support PostScript, install the Ghostscript package, which
>will convert PostScript into PCL commands, and supports almost any
>printer out there.  The manual explains how to set up printing with
>Ghostscript.

I once had a Ghostscript for DOS but couldn't figure how to make anything work,
think I must have been missing some parts.  I think Ghostscript or Ghostview
can print or view PDF files, and the DOS version is falling behind compared to
OS/2 and Unix-style OSes.  Theoretically I might be able to print Korean,
Japanese or Chinese but would have no way of knowing if it came out correct.  I
might have a better chance with the Linux version, installed with Slackware.
Printer is Panasonic KX-P1124, which is 24-pin dot matrix.

>> I prepared this message using DOS Emacs, hope the formatting will look neater
>> than it does on the Emacs screen.

>What's wrong with how it looks on your screen?

>Perhaps you should put the following line in your _emacs file:

>(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill)

>This will cause Emacs to automatically wrap lines in all text-related
>modes (that includes mail-mode, the mode used for composing mail
>messages).

Emacs screen shows backslashes in the rightmost column when the line is 80
characters long, or longer.  I think there is word wrap somewhere in the menus?
I guess mail-mode would also be used for news messages?


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