X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mailnull set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f From: "Thomas Mueller" Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: GNU Emacs DOS (DJGPP) port converts upper-ASCII characters to ASCII 127 Date: 16 Feb 2002 13:38:53 GMT Lines: 92 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial3-129.bluegrass.net (208.147.34.129) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1013866733 1240370 208.147.34.129 (16 [49635]) X-Mailer: NOS-BOX 2.05 To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DOS command-line program for SMTP, POP3 and NNTP is UKA_PPP. Current version is 1.7x2, aka NOS-BOX 2.05. URL is http://mvmpc200.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de/~mvmpc9/index.htm This is a 16-bit program or suite of programs. There is also a Win32 front end UKAW which I never tried. "Official" way is to run from the menu, which includes a dialer. Dialer does not work on my new computer. Actually the dialer might work, but EPPPD or EPPPDD fails to make the IP connection. Only DOS-based PPP program I have got to work on new computer is LSPPP http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/lsppp/ There are also some 32-bit DOS Internet applications in WATT-32 http://www.bgnett.no/~giva/ From my earlier post >> and Eli Zaretskii > : >> I wouldn't see any advantage trying to invoke this >> program from within Emacs >The advantage is that you use the same editor for writing the message, >quoting the messages you reply to, spell-check the message with Emacs >built-in support for Ispell, and have access to all the other powerful >Emacs features related to email, like full control of the message headers, >for example. You can still prepare the outgoing messages in Emacs and exit to get to the mail/news program. Author of UKA_PPP anticipated Yarn or Crosspoint as mail/news readers, was presumably not thinking of Emacs. It appears the mouse works much better in DOS Emacs than in Linux non-X, though I think Emacs in Linux/Unix would work much better in X than non-X. >> I tried w3 just to see if it would work when connected to the Internet. I was >> prompted for the URL, but I got the error message that w3 was missing. >Right, that's because w3 isn't part of the standard distribution. But it >doesn't work in the DJGPP port anyway (no built-in network support, >remember?), so don't run out looking for it on the net. If I run out looking for w3 on the net, it will be for Linux and/or NetBSD, not DOS. File browse-url.el and browse-url-w3.el both truncate to BROWSE-U.EL where long file names are not supported; one would kill the other. Not really a barrier, since browse-url-w3.el could be renamed. >Not every triangle you see means that there's an ASCII-127 character in >the buffer. "C-u C-x =" is one way of telling. Emacs uses ASCII-127 for >both the display and conversion of unsupported characters. When only the >display is unsupported, the character in the file is not modified, but >just remapped for display purposes. But you say Emacs 21.x would not convert to ASCII-127 and save that way? A file might have parts in Latin-1 and other parts not in Latin-1. >> Printer drivers would be another issue. My printer has no support for Korean, >> Japanese or Chinese but could print a graphic file. >Use the ps-print-buffer command, it outputs a PostScript file that >handles all the fonts you can find on SimTel.NET. If your printer >doesn't support PostScript, install the Ghostscript package, which >will convert PostScript into PCL commands, and supports almost any >printer out there. The manual explains how to set up printing with >Ghostscript. I once had a Ghostscript for DOS but couldn't figure how to make anything work, think I must have been missing some parts. I think Ghostscript or Ghostview can print or view PDF files, and the DOS version is falling behind compared to OS/2 and Unix-style OSes. Theoretically I might be able to print Korean, Japanese or Chinese but would have no way of knowing if it came out correct. I might have a better chance with the Linux version, installed with Slackware. Printer is Panasonic KX-P1124, which is 24-pin dot matrix. >> I prepared this message using DOS Emacs, hope the formatting will look neater >> than it does on the Emacs screen. >What's wrong with how it looks on your screen? >Perhaps you should put the following line in your _emacs file: >(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill) >This will cause Emacs to automatically wrap lines in all text-related >modes (that includes mail-mode, the mode used for composing mail >messages). Emacs screen shows backslashes in the rightmost column when the line is 80 characters long, or longer. I think there is word wrap somewhere in the menus? I guess mail-mode would also be used for news messages?