Mail Archives: djgpp/2001/01/24/05:02:50
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2001, Hans-Bernhard Broeker wrote:
> > Compared to both of these, ME is a pain in the lower back as it comes
> > to advanced DJGPP usage. Just as an example, you'll have no way of
> > using the full power of the YAMD memory debugger on an ME system
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> I don't see how this example is really enough to warrant the verdict
> that Windows ME is ``a pain in the lower back as it comes to advanced
> DJGPP usage.'' Most DJGPP users on Windows never go to DOS mode, and
> thus don't have the benefits of YAMD anyway.
That's why I spoke of "advanced" usage of DJGPP. For everyday use, it's
okay, AFAIK. But the removal of MS-DOS mode can mean a severe limitation
for certain cases, mostly dealing with debugging. How, e.g., is anyone
supposed to become aware of a NULL pointer problem if he can't run the
code on DOS to check for it?
> People who need plain
> DOS will arrange a dual-boot system and be done with it.
But that's the exact problem: you *cannot* set up a dual-boot system with
unhacked versions of Windows ME.
> (Btw, is it possible on Windows ME to switch to the so-called ``DOS
> Mode'' by setting properties of a DOS program or the DOS box? If so,
> it might be an easier way of getting to plain DOS without patching
> anything.)
No, that's been disabled, too. In ME, the only "allowed" way of getting
into real DOS is a boot floppy. And that, IMHO, does qualify as a pain.
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Hans-Bernhard Broeker (broeker AT physik DOT rwth-aachen DOT de)
Even if all the snow were burnt, ashes would remain.
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