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From: mapson AT mapson DOT com (mapson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: A Very New Beginner
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 20:04:17 GMT
Organization: Yale University
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On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 01:57:07 +0100, David Jenkins
<me AT jenkinsdavid DOT demon DOT co DOT uk> wrote:

>In article <199708031806 DOT OAA11146 AT delorie DOT com>, DJ Delorie
><dj AT delorie DOT com> writes
>>
>>> How about if someone wrote a small doc explaining how to unzip the .zips
>>> into a Djgpp folder, then how to put the SETs stuff into Autoexec.bat,
>>> then put this small doc on a site, all you'd need to do then is reply
>>> with the URL pointing to the doc??

Go here for exactly this:
http://www.rt66.com/~brennan/djgpp/

>>You mean like ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/gnu/djgpp/v2/readme.1st
>>or http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/dl/ofc/simtel/v2/readme.1st
>>
>Yeah, but some Newbies are still asking in the NG how to install it.


Exactly. In fact, if you go in to other newsgroups, like the
everimposing rec.games.programmer, talk about DJGPP inevitable gets to
"hard to install" as a deterrant to using. Personally, I thought it
was easy to install... but hey, if people are having such a hard time
with it, that's bad for "the cause." I mean, we want to see more and
more people using DJGPP- and if it is as simple as giving them a
hand-hold through the installation process, what the hell! I always
refer people to Brennan's site, since he's got a walk-through that is
adequate. Again:
http://www.rt66.com/~brennan/djgpp/

That is where I always send people with any interest in DJGPP. No
offence to DJ, but his site is better for those who already have their
bearings.  For one thing, Brennan's site provides an excellent table
describing what the different files are and why you might or MUST have
this or the other file. Frankly, that was the hardest part of
installation- knowing which files you need. You either ended up with a
million utilities that you didn't need, source *and* binaries for
everything, or... lacking that one utility you *did* really need. I
think that is because of the nature of GNU things; it's spread around,
and you have to do a little work to get what you need. sed is here,
make is there. WHen you *buy* a compiler, it's all in the box.

That said, I've had a much harder time installing basically every
compiler-out-of-a-box than I had with DJGPP. Two lines in the
autoexec! That was basically it! For the next install, I skipped all
the zips and simply I copied the directory structure from my home
machine to another machine on a zip disk. Talk about effortless!

>I was just thinking that adding an Install.txt file to the distribution
>would ease the problem some people have with these posts. I posted a
>very brief step by step install.txt type thing earlier in this thread. I
>reckon if all the waffle about upgrading from Version1 to 2 was cut out
>in this new doc, it'd make it clearer and foolproof for newbies.
>
>>> Maybe the man himself DJ Delorie would like to do it.
>>
>>Apparently, I already did. :-)
>
>We know. :)

>BTW
>I myself don't even have a problem with Newbies asking how to install
>DJGPP, some people seem to have a problem with it. I've tried putting
>something in which could ease it, BUT it appears to me that nobody seems
>interested in solving the problem. Nobody else appears to have offered
>any solutions, why??

Brennan did. In case the original poster is still curious, hasn't run
with tail between legs (this thread took some nasty turns!), here's a
few lines from Brennan's page:
__
Make a directory to install in, I recommend "djgpp":

     cd \
     mkdir djgpp
     cd \djgpp

     Put all the ZIP files in this directory. Now you need to unzip
them. If you're using pkunzip, you need to use -d so it will
     place the various files in their appropriate directories. 

     pkunzip -d *.zip

     or 

     unzip *.zip

     Then add 

     set djgpp=c:/djgpp/djgpp.env

     To your AUTOEXEC.BAT. (Those are forward slashes.)

     Then you need to add C:\DJGPP\BIN (or whatever path you chose) to
your PATH in AUTOEXEC.BAT. Put it
     before any other path entry that might have "make" in it. 

     PATH=C:\DOS;C:\BIN;C:\TC\BIN

     becomes 

     PATH=C:\DOS;C:\BIN;C:\DJGPP\BIN;C:\TC\BIN
___

Can anything be more explicit?!

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