From: mapson AT mapson DOT com (mapson) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Subject: Re: A Very New Beginner Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 20:04:17 GMT Organization: Yale University Lines: 106 Message-ID: <33e78095.11731866@news.cis.yale.edu> References: <199708031806 DOT OAA11146 AT delorie DOT com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-ppp-node-14.cs.yale.edu To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 01:57:07 +0100, David Jenkins wrote: >In article <199708031806 DOT OAA11146 AT delorie DOT com>, DJ Delorie > writes >> >>> How about if someone wrote a small doc explaining how to unzip the .zips >>> into a Djgpp folder, then how to put the SETs stuff into Autoexec.bat, >>> then put this small doc on a site, all you'd need to do then is reply >>> with the URL pointing to the doc?? Go here for exactly this: http://www.rt66.com/~brennan/djgpp/ >>You mean like ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/gnu/djgpp/v2/readme.1st >>or http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/dl/ofc/simtel/v2/readme.1st >> >Yeah, but some Newbies are still asking in the NG how to install it. Exactly. In fact, if you go in to other newsgroups, like the everimposing rec.games.programmer, talk about DJGPP inevitable gets to "hard to install" as a deterrant to using. Personally, I thought it was easy to install... but hey, if people are having such a hard time with it, that's bad for "the cause." I mean, we want to see more and more people using DJGPP- and if it is as simple as giving them a hand-hold through the installation process, what the hell! I always refer people to Brennan's site, since he's got a walk-through that is adequate. Again: http://www.rt66.com/~brennan/djgpp/ That is where I always send people with any interest in DJGPP. No offence to DJ, but his site is better for those who already have their bearings. For one thing, Brennan's site provides an excellent table describing what the different files are and why you might or MUST have this or the other file. Frankly, that was the hardest part of installation- knowing which files you need. You either ended up with a million utilities that you didn't need, source *and* binaries for everything, or... lacking that one utility you *did* really need. I think that is because of the nature of GNU things; it's spread around, and you have to do a little work to get what you need. sed is here, make is there. WHen you *buy* a compiler, it's all in the box. That said, I've had a much harder time installing basically every compiler-out-of-a-box than I had with DJGPP. Two lines in the autoexec! That was basically it! For the next install, I skipped all the zips and simply I copied the directory structure from my home machine to another machine on a zip disk. Talk about effortless! >I was just thinking that adding an Install.txt file to the distribution >would ease the problem some people have with these posts. I posted a >very brief step by step install.txt type thing earlier in this thread. I >reckon if all the waffle about upgrading from Version1 to 2 was cut out >in this new doc, it'd make it clearer and foolproof for newbies. > >>> Maybe the man himself DJ Delorie would like to do it. >> >>Apparently, I already did. :-) > >We know. :) >BTW >I myself don't even have a problem with Newbies asking how to install >DJGPP, some people seem to have a problem with it. I've tried putting >something in which could ease it, BUT it appears to me that nobody seems >interested in solving the problem. Nobody else appears to have offered >any solutions, why?? Brennan did. In case the original poster is still curious, hasn't run with tail between legs (this thread took some nasty turns!), here's a few lines from Brennan's page: __ Make a directory to install in, I recommend "djgpp": cd \ mkdir djgpp cd \djgpp Put all the ZIP files in this directory. Now you need to unzip them. If you're using pkunzip, you need to use -d so it will place the various files in their appropriate directories. pkunzip -d *.zip or unzip *.zip Then add set djgpp=c:/djgpp/djgpp.env To your AUTOEXEC.BAT. (Those are forward slashes.) Then you need to add C:\DJGPP\BIN (or whatever path you chose) to your PATH in AUTOEXEC.BAT. Put it before any other path entry that might have "make" in it. PATH=C:\DOS;C:\BIN;C:\TC\BIN becomes PATH=C:\DOS;C:\BIN;C:\DJGPP\BIN;C:\TC\BIN ___ Can anything be more explicit?!