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From: "Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET)" <salvador AT inti DOT edu DOT ar>
Organization: INTI
To: "Kris Heidenstrom" <kheidens AT actrix DOT gen DOT nz>, djgpp AT delorie DOT com
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:03:54 +0000
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Subject: Re: Some comments and questions

"Kris Heidenstrom" <kheidens AT actrix DOT gen DOT nz> wrote:
> >> I would, if EMACS could work like my favourite editor, but I don't
> >> think it can't be made to do some of the major things I like about
> >> my favourite editor (scroll-lock, 
> > What scroll-lock does?
> 
> This editor uses the Scroll Lock key to enable/disable the mode where
> it keeps the cursor on the same line, and scrolls the file accordingly
> as I move around.
Ugh, the cursor is ever centered?!, I think I can do that, in fact I have a 
flag that forces to center the cursor, is enabled after a jump to marker (for 
example), of course that normally is disable just after the jump. But I guess 
it can be forced. I'll try it just for fun, I think the effect will be very 
funny.
 
> >> real-time program output capture,
> >> scrollback through captured output and commands, and a few others).
> > RHIDE does it and EMACS too.
> 
> Not very nicely.  It doesn't associate the command with its output,
> or let you edit and re-execute old commands by moving through the
> captured output.  But, no other editor apart from the one I use
> does this either.  It is one of the nicest features of this editor
> IMO.  OTH, EMACS's way of doing it would be OK most of the time.
Hmm.. I can't see where it comes usefull!, you normally just correct the errors 
and press 1 key! that's pretty simple.
 
> >> These are fundamental design features and can't be added just by
> >> binding keys :-)  Some time when I have a few days to spare I will
> >> try it out, though :-)
> > I wasn't talking about EMACS ;-)
> > RHIDE captures the errors and shows the line where the error is (the
> > column too in Ada ;-).
> 
> That doesn't surprise me - I've used Borland's IDE too, remember :-)
> 
> >>> With RHIDE these alien files will become identical to Borland helps
> >>> (much more slow but same look & feel).
> >> 
> >> Yes!  I just hope Borland don't try to sue RH for copying the look
> >> and feel of Turbo Debugger!  He has done an excellent job!
> > RHIDE uses TVision, and Borland distributes it in your Web site.
> > Additionally we ,Robert and I, are registered Borland users, they
> > can't sue anybody :-)
> 
> Well, by selling TurboVision, Borland aren't necessarily saying that
> they want you to write a program that uses exactly the same key
> combinations and provides the same functionality as one of theirs!
The look & feel war is over. The courts ever failed against idiots trying to 
sue people for the use of "same key", "same commands", etc.

> But I'm sure they have more important things to worry about.
Yes and things that really can give then money. I doubt they want to spend 
money against people making programs in countries where they doesn't even know 
(goes for me ;-).
 
> BTW, how are you able to distribute the source to a "port of Turbo
> Vision"?  I thought Turbo Vision was a commercial product...?
TVision is in the Borland's Web Site!, you just need to go to the Web and 
download. Robert just distribute diffs against these sources. And the people at 
Borland knows about that.
 
> >>>> Info reader bug - when I invoke 'info' with a keyword it doesn't know
> >>>> about (e.g. 'info djasm'), it reports 'bad command or filename'
> >>>> (probably reported by command.com) then hangs.
> 
[sniped]
> 
> Suggestions anyone?
I don't know anything about info internals. Eli knows ;-)
 
Greetings, SET 
 
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