Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990526031727.009cb2b0@pop.xs4all.nl> X-Sender: diep AT pop DOT xs4all DOT nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 03:17:29 +0100 To: pgcc AT delorie DOT com, pgcc AT delorie DOT com From: Vincent Diepeveen Subject: Re: EPIC/IA-64 Merced, etc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: pgcc AT delorie DOT com At 12:28 AM 5/26/99 +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote: >On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 05:56:16PM -0400, Adam Schrotenboer wrote: >> Noticed that there is aparrently some interest in EPIC, which at this >> time is not yet supported by GCC. > >I am sure gcc will support Merced when it will released ;) > >But first of all, if you want technical rather than strategic info I'd >recommend to look at the GCC EPIC page: > >http://www.goof.com/pcg/epic/ > >(I'm currently in the process of adding new links to that page) > >> My q is as to whether or not it is an open std, or is Intel going to >> charge a head and torso for any other chipmakers to use it? > >EPIC is an architecture like RISC or CISC - you can patent aspects of it, >but not the idea itself. > >What Intel does is to sell the IA64, and, yes, they are fairly >closed-minded about who gets which information. > >> Will AMD be able to use it in an upconming K8 or whathever the next one Well... First see the K7. within 2.5 weeks i should be seeing a K7 running 1 Ghz, if AMD keeps its deadline (note that this is a K7 with L2 cache at 1/3 speed, so therefore 1 ghz reachable). >Good question. Don't think so. > >> will be??? Or Cyrix (heard some talk of AMD buying Cyrix, though I don't > >Even better question, I don't think Cyrix will, they've got quite a few >problems to solve with their current designs ;) > >At the moment it seems that the only other counter-player against the >merced is the elbrus-2k, which might get delivered even earlier than the >merced! > >-- > -----==- | > ----==-- _ | > ---==---(_)__ __ ____ __ Marc Lehmann +-- > --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / pcg AT goof DOT com |e| > -=====/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ > The choice of a GNU generation | > | > >