X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to opendos-bounces using -f X-Recipient: opendos AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <00a401c92aee$ae529300$5401a8c0@tanti2007> From: "Arno Schuh" To: References: <009e01c922f3$86f26680$5401a8c0 AT tanti2007> Subject: Re: drdos ethernet question Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:40:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com If the drdos documentation refers to how to set up an network with DOS forget this stuff, because It is needless to connect to the Internet, and in addition the drivers you need to load are filling up the RAM so you can't setup larger pieces of software that needs a lot of memory. The only piece of driver you need is the mentioned paket driver that speaks right to the card. The Realtek RTL8139 ethernet card I use in my old PC is a PCI card, not an ISA card. And because it is an old one you'll get such cards for 5 $ from Ebay. Today everybody is looking for gigabyte cards and throw such still fine working cards away. If you know exactly the type of your ethernet card we could search for the right paket driver. And as mentioned below except Nettamer anything runs that I hooked on my rtspkt.com driver for my RTL8139. And as configuration it only needs its address (i. e. rtspkt 0x70). After your session you run a terminator like termin.com with the address (i. e. termin 0x70). That's it. When I tried to connect to the Internet the first time, I also tried to set up a network under DOS with ODI drivers and OEM, loading protocols for TCPIP VLM etc. At last I got it running, but I had to set up a new menue in my autoexec.bat and config.sys, so I could decide if I'ld like to connect to the Internet or would type a letter. When the network stuff was loaded I couldn't run Word 5.0, because lak of memory. Fortunately the already mentioned Herbert Hanewinkel told me, that this network stuff isn't needed if I connect to the Internet via ethernet card and router. Jude DaShiell schrieb Am Freitag, 10. Oktober 2008 02:03: > The dosbook program does what for screen reader users like myself are > bad screen writes which screen readers have trouble handling. Later > I found the drdos documentation on line and tried doing what was in > Chapter 25. That's when a friend and me found out we're probably > going to need to find a compatible pci card if such exists. Most > compatible cards are isa based and require exact matches for drivers > or drdos never detects the card. We're using dhcp over here and > tcp/ip with metrocast.com. That's going through a ditigal modem and > router that isn't wireless. I figure lynx and mskermit should work > fine once I get it set up as well as wput and wget and the ssh tools > in djgpp but nettamer won't work without a dial up modem unless it's > since been updated substantially. Right now, the bios/cmos > recognizes an ethernet card in the machine but drdos setup doesn't > find any ethernet card. > > > > On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Arno Schuh wrote: > >> Hi, >> who told you something about net.cfg? >> I didn't read such an info right in this list. >> To run most of the internet applications for DOS I know - except i. >> e. Netamer, that afaIk. only connects by its own dial up routine - >> only needs a paket driver like the mentioned rtspkt.com. There are >> others around for other ethernet cards. >> Of course you have to setup your browser i. e. the lynx.cfg >> properly, but these help files are in english. >> If your ethernet card is directly connected to the net (not via a >> router) you should look for pepa. That's a pppoe driver software >> from Herbert Hanewinkel. I don't know if it is still available. >> Because I use a router, I didn''t spend a lot of time to test, how >> it works. >> >> Yours sincerely >> >> Arno >> >> Jude DaShiell schrieb Am Dienstag, 30. >> September 2008 10:23: >> >>> Okay, does anyone know where some good examples of net.cfg files can >>> be found? I'm finding some, but when a page translates from russian >>> to english my confidence is shaken in the quality of the >>> translation.