X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to opendos-bounces using -f X-Authentication-Warning: mshost.mos.ru: uubelous set sender to belous!belous.munic.msk.su!ark using -f >Received: by belous.munic.msk.su (dMail for DOS v2.7.10, 24Jul03); Sat, 2 Oct 2004 07:20:19 +0400 To: opendos AT delorie DOT com X-Comment-To: shadow AT shadowgard DOT com References: <415BD918 DOT 3767 DOT 1C76739 AT localhost> <415D8D59 DOT 9006 DOT 86F1D1B AT localhost> From: "Arkady V.Belousov" Message-Id: <2.7.10.QK7Z.I4XT9V@belous.munic.msk.su> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 07:20:19 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for DOS v2.7.10] Subject: Re: Undesirable reboots MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by box.mos.ru id i923MJV26487 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id i923MevS025286 Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Hi! 1-οΛΤ-2004 17:01 _shadow AT shadowgard DOT com (shadow AT shadowgard DOT com) wrote to opendos AT delorie DOT com: >> >You need EMS for the upper RAM. >> Only in case you need EMS. In all other cases it is better to use >> 'himem.sys /ChipSet=RAM' or URAM or UBMPCI or ... sc> You misunderstand. You need *something* that acts as an EMS driver to sc> get RAM mapped into the empty spots in the "upper" RAM area. _You_ misunderstood. To get upper RAM, you _not_ need _neither_ of EMM, nor protected mode. This is casuality (from MS?), that its program EMM386 does _both_ switching to protected mode (to make possible mapping RAM in any 386+) _and_ provides EMS support. But again: to get UMB you need neither EMS (for example, you may run EMM386 with option NOEMS), nor protected mode (if _chipset_ supports memory remapping, you may force it with help of programs like UMBPCI without switching to protected mode). (BTW, UMB control API is a part of XMS API).