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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 06:11:13 -0800
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes versus Jaws; speech output for blind people
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On 19 Jan 2004 at 8:43, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Transmission messed up on this end.  starpower.net has a bad firewall that
> sometimes blocks me out completely and sometimes it's lowered a little so
> I can connect.  When I wrote that last message their firewall was probably
> on its way back up.  The thing about window-eyes is that it doesn't have
> to be rebooted once daily whether or not anyone has touched the keyboard
> or mouse.  jaws has that particular difficulty in business computing
> environments where network administrators are constantly screwing around
> under the hood.  The biggest reason to move to window-eyes is its set
> files rather than the jaws scripts.  Most of the commands for the jaws
> scripting language remain undocumented and known only to the developers of
> that software.  Many people in the jaws user community if you talk with
> them and ask them specifically about mirc will tell you it's not supported
> yet because those in the user community knowledgeable with scripts haven't
> written anything for it yet.  Window-eyes has been able to use mirc for
> the past several years, I had it working myself on my home computer while
> windows was still on it.  If office 2000 and windows 98se were both as
> stable as window-eyes is, I probably never would have installed Linux here
> but that just wasn't the case.  Finally, many organizations employing
> blind people have it set as a firing offense if a user installs software
> on their computer that wasn't installed by network administration, so even
> if new software titles are produced unless they're home users of windows
> they're not going to develop many set files for others to use.

Well, JAWS is what the Oregon Commision for the 
Blind provides and supports. And only if you are in 
a "trying to get a job" program.

Lin was in one, and had to drop out when it became 
obvious that her fibro wasn't going to let her.

But since she already was rather familiar with it 
and could get some help, she wanted to go with it 
since the alternative was giving up using email and 
the web. Which is most of her contct with a lot of 
people.

--
Leonard Erickson (aka shadow)
shadow at krypton dot rain dot com