X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to opendos-bounces using -f X-Authentication-Warning: server2.shellworld.net: jdashiel owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:43:42 -0500 (EST) From: Jude DaShiell To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: Window-Eyes versus Jaws; speech output for blind people In-Reply-To: <1AiKv3-2IwPEf0@fwd09.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: References: <1AiKv3-2IwPEf0 AT fwd09 DOT sul DOT t-online DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: opendos AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Transmission messed up on this end. starpower.net has a bad firewall that sometimes blocks me out completely and sometimes it's lowered a little so I can connect. When I wrote that last message their firewall was probably on its way back up. The thing about window-eyes is that it doesn't have to be rebooted once daily whether or not anyone has touched the keyboard or mouse. jaws has that particular difficulty in business computing environments where network administrators are constantly screwing around under the hood. The biggest reason to move to window-eyes is its set files rather than the jaws scripts. Most of the commands for the jaws scripting language remain undocumented and known only to the developers of that software. Many people in the jaws user community if you talk with them and ask them specifically about mirc will tell you it's not supported yet because those in the user community knowledgeable with scripts haven't written anything for it yet. Window-eyes has been able to use mirc for the past several years, I had it working myself on my home computer while windows was still on it. If office 2000 and windows 98se were both as stable as window-eyes is, I probably never would have installed Linux here but that just wasn't the case. Finally, many organizations employing blind people have it set as a firing offense if a user installs software on their computer that wasn't installed by network administration, so even if new software titles are produced unless they're home users of windows they're not going to develop many set files for others to use.