X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to opendos-bounces using -f From: "Mike Tripp" To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Subject: Networks Message-ID: Date: Sunday, 18 Jan 2004 10:10:33 -500 X-Mailer: Internet Rex gateway (2.29) In-Reply-To: X-Fido-From: Mike Tripp, 1:382/61 X-Fido-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-IgLou-Customer: verified X-Originating-IP: 204.255.230.194 Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: opendos AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Originally to: opendos AT delorie DOT com Hello opendos AT delorie DOT com! 15 Jan 04 08:19, Gary Welles wrote to OpenDos: >> Since that's already in place, including being connected as part >> of the internet; I'm not sure what your point is... GW> A network having a gateway to the Internet, as Fidonet does, does GW> not make it part of the Internet. I assume Fidonet users can GW> exchange messages without those messages traversing the Internet, GW> or at least not as Internet mail (SMTP). The classic networking definition of a "gateway" =does= require being a member of the multiple networks involved, so those gateway systems are "part of the Internet" or they can't technically "gate". With the advent of IP mailers for Fidonet, the majority of IP nodes in Fido are tunneling Fido protocols within Internet protocols...not utilizing the translation services provided by a gateway to convert one to the other. That =does= (necessarily) make them a "part of the Internet" =and= "part of Fidonet" simultaneously, during a single connection. With some IP mailers, it is also possible to transfer Fido data files (including messages) using only Internet protocols, and none of the Fidonet handshake/transfer protocols. .\\ike