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From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT daSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: "'opendos AT delorie DOT com'" <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Subject: RE: Arachne Web browser for DOS
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:43:18 +1100 
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FWIW, my ISP supports both CHAP and PAP, however I have
to disable CHAP in Linux, otherwise login fails (IIRC, the login
first offers CHAP, falling back to PAP if the client doesn't agree).
I think many/most ISP's offer both CHAP and PAP in this way.

Anyway, the two most common PPP packet drivers used with
Arachne are EPPPD (DOSPPPD) and LSPPP. Although the
standard build of EPPPD supports only PAP, there is another
build available (in the DOSPPPD "full distribution", which you can
download from http://browser.arachne.cz/dos/), which supports
CHAP. As for LSPPP, the standard build supports both CHAP
and PAP. BTW, if anyone would like to try my _beta_ version of
LSPPP (FIFO handling further improved), they can download it via :
http://jds-freeware.hypermart.net/lsppp101.ZIP

So, there are at least two free, open-source PPP packet drivers
available that support CHAP!     :-)

Joe.


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Gary Welles [SMTP:gary AT wellesway DOT com]
> Sent:	Saturday, November 29, 2003 1:50 AM
> To:	OpenDos
> Subject:	Re: Arachne Web browser for DOS
> 
> Day Brown writes:
> 
> > . . . since I moved to where none of the isps will logon with dos . . .
> 
> Most dialup ISPs offer only CHAP login.  The free DOS TCP/IP
> stacks usually support LAN connections or dialin with simple
> terminal prompt login or PAP login.  Netmanage's DOS PC/TCP stack
> and dialer support all three and costs at least $100.  The stack
> offers for DR-DOS also cost extra and I expect likewise offers
> CHAP authentication.
> 
> UUnet, the first commercial ISP, continues to offer terminal
> prompt login at over 2,500 dialup points of presence world wide.
> They are Pipex in the UK and better known as WorldCom or MCI
> elsewhere.
> 
> They are a Tier 1 ISP who normally provide Internet services for
> better known ISP who use some of those same points of prescence
> with more secure CHAP login.  If you dial your present ISP with a
> terminal application, it's likely you'll see a UUnet prompt such
> as this:
> 
>      UQKT2 tnt54.nyc3.da.uu.net
> 
> 
>      Login:
> 
> They don't advertise for individual accounts in the US, but you
> can get them starting at $7.95, now under the MCI brand.  Details
> at:  URL=https://customercenter.mci.com/
> 
> 
> 
> > Is there an effort to port xwindows or some kind of API to dos so that
> > it could run the win 3/os2 versions of opera or mozilla? Maybe in on a
> > 32bit drive?
> 
> X-Window is os independent.  Although normally seen on Unixes,
> DESQview/X is a DOS X-server with DESQview providing the
> multitasking DOS lacks and a private interface to QEMM providing
> the flat 32 memory model.
> 
> DJGPP ports of Unix X-Window apps to DOS DV/X are straight
> forward.  I can get very tedious converting Unix to DOS 8.3 file
> names or if you have to write DESQview API calls to replace Unix
> multitasking functions such as fork().
> 
> With the decline of DOS applications, it makes more sense to work
> DOS apps from Unix or Linux rather than porting major X apps to
> DOS DV/X.
> 
> See for DV/X details:
> 
>      URL=http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bmm/dvx.html
> 
> For a copy of DV/X:
> 
>      URL=http://www.chsoft.com/dv.html
> 
> -- Gary Welles