X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to opendos-bounces using -f Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:49:58 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Welles To: OpenDos Subject: Re: Arachne Web browser for DOS Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Day Brown writes: > . . . since I moved to where none of the isps will logon with dos . . . Most dialup ISPs offer only CHAP login. The free DOS TCP/IP stacks usually support LAN connections or dialin with simple terminal prompt login or PAP login. Netmanage's DOS PC/TCP stack and dialer support all three and costs at least $100. The stack offers for DR-DOS also cost extra and I expect likewise offers CHAP authentication. UUnet, the first commercial ISP, continues to offer terminal prompt login at over 2,500 dialup points of presence world wide. They are Pipex in the UK and better known as WorldCom or MCI elsewhere. They are a Tier 1 ISP who normally provide Internet services for better known ISP who use some of those same points of prescence with more secure CHAP login. If you dial your present ISP with a terminal application, it's likely you'll see a UUnet prompt such as this: UQKT2 tnt54.nyc3.da.uu.net Login: They don't advertise for individual accounts in the US, but you can get them starting at $7.95, now under the MCI brand. Details at: URL=https://customercenter.mci.com/ > Is there an effort to port xwindows or some kind of API to dos so that > it could run the win 3/os2 versions of opera or mozilla? Maybe in on a > 32bit drive? X-Window is os independent. Although normally seen on Unixes, DESQview/X is a DOS X-server with DESQview providing the multitasking DOS lacks and a private interface to QEMM providing the flat 32 memory model. DJGPP ports of Unix X-Window apps to DOS DV/X are straight forward. I can get very tedious converting Unix to DOS 8.3 file names or if you have to write DESQview API calls to replace Unix multitasking functions such as fork(). With the decline of DOS applications, it makes more sense to work DOS apps from Unix or Linux rather than porting major X apps to DOS DV/X. See for DV/X details: URL=http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bmm/dvx.html For a copy of DV/X: URL=http://www.chsoft.com/dv.html -- Gary Welles