>Received: by krypton.rain.com (rnr) via rnr; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:47:43 PST To: opendos AT delorie DOT com X-Original-Article-From: DJ Delorie Subject: Re: Remove Me From: shadow AT krypton DOT rain DOT com (Leonard Erickson) Message-ID: <20822.004743.8h2.rnr.w165w@krypton.rain.com> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:47:43 PST In-Reply-To: <200208220102.g7M12td06289@envy.delorie.com> Organization: Shadownet X-Mailer: rnr v2.20 Received: from krypton by qiclab.scn.rain.com; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 03:00 PDT Content-Type: text Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: opendos AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk In mail you write: > >> True, but the received lines from the point at which the message >> entered the Internet *are* valid. > > Nope. The only ones you can trust are as far back as machines you > trust. If you trust delorie.com, you can trust the "Received ... by > delorie.com" line, but you can't always trust the lines further out > than that - they're easily faked also. Basicly, you can evaluate the other lines based on various criteria. Some spammers put a lot of effort into faking received lines. Most just fake the first one and send thru an open relay or otherwise compromised machine. -- Leonard Erickson (aka shadow{G}) shadow AT krypton DOT rain DOT com <--preferred leonard AT qiclab DOT scn DOT rain DOT com <--last resort