To: opendos AT delorie DOT com X-Original-Article-From: "da Silva, Joe" Subject: Re: DOS/Linux coexistence (was: [Club Dr-DOS]) #2b From: shadow AT krypton DOT rain DOT com (Leonard Erickson) Message-ID: <20603.133415.7s4.rnr.w165w@krypton.rain.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:34:15 PST In-Reply-To: <01FD6EC775C6D4119CDF0090273F74A4FD6752@emwatent02.meters.com.au> Organization: Shadownet X-Mailer: rnr v2.20 Received: from krypton by qiclab.scn.rain.com; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:59 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: opendos AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk In mail you write: >> (Everything on DOS is "run as root" because there are no user accounts >> nor varied permission levels.) Depends. If you are running stuff on a Netware file server, even from a DOS machine, there *are* file and user permissions for a lot of stuff. > [Joe da Silva] > > Yeah, I know, the *nix world is very protective of root > privileges, whereas DOS users take such privileges > as their natural right. I'm sure I'm not the only user > from the DOS world that invariably runs as "root". > > One of the first things I did, after spending two days > trying to figure out how, was to "SUID" (I think that's > what it's called) the "shutdown" command. I think > it's absurd that a "pleb" user can easily hit the reset > or power switch, yet is by default not allowed to > shut down the system properly! Strange priorities > these *nix folks have! You have to remember that Unix was being run on multi-user systems where the omputer was (usually) somewhere safe and the users where accessing it via terminals. They could shut off their terminal, but not the system. Heck, when I get around to setting up a Linux box, I actually have some terminals to connect to it! Including a few 8-bit systems. -- Leonard Erickson (aka shadow{G}) shadow AT krypton DOT rain DOT com <--preferred leonard AT qiclab DOT scn DOT rain DOT com <--last resort