Message-Id: <3.0.16.19810629180054.2fc71064@tellus.swip.net> X-Sender: mt58779 AT tellus DOT swip DOT net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (16) To: opendos AT delorie DOT com From: Bernie Subject: Re: New DR-DOS Club and eGroup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:09:32 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id NAA15136 Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Pat wrote: >No kidding. maybe you didn't read my message completely and have >not followed previous messages about this. So I'll state some of >it again. (snip) No, just as you I'm a bit behind in reading my mails. I also write my mails off-line to reduce cost, therefor more information is often available when my mail finally ends up getting sent. >I have another website that I started, it has plenty of drive >space to do everything I need. But when I started building my >webpage, it took foooooorrrrrrreeeeeeeevvvvvvveeeeeeeerrrrrrrrr to >get to the next page to do the next step. I need to install a >program and do it on my computer then upload it. I don't have the >space on the computer nor the time to learn the program at this >time. What do you mean with "to do the next step"? You can easily create the page you need with notepad.exe (which you already have installed) and upload it with ftp.exe (already installed as well, however it's not all that easy to use for a novice). >What do you mean by cache is clean? If you are referring to IE4 >cache, I don't use it, I turned it off. It is useless. All it does >is use up HD space. It's not useless for most people since the majority of users tend to return to the same pages after a short while. The text (HTML file) might be diffrent but the images are often the same, atleast enough of them to make it worth using a few MBs of HD space. >Again you have not read the messages. I stated in a message, that >I have gotten way behind in e-mail and probably missed it. Sorry I missed that, I was just informing you since you might have forgotten. >Again you did not read what I wrote. I set up the GROUP in about >two hours. Oh, my misstake. However setting up a webpage would not take even close to two hours. BTW: You are aware that Yahoo! will shutdown your group when they realize that some of the stuff you have on it is illegal, right? Sorry to say, but your work will then be in vain and you'll need to redo it. Although in "Liberating cyberspace" Yaman Akdeniz et. al. write: "The difficulty with the Net, however, is knowing when infrigement has occurred." ... "The problem is one of detection and enforcement". I think Yahoo! do check what's stored on their servers. You could always try to claim that it's "abandonware" since it's no longer supported/sold, but that's not how the law works. From the same book: "In reality, 10 or 15 years´ protection from publication probably would be adequate given the pace of change in the [computer] industry." However this isn't the case (yet?), so Yahoo! is likely to remove the group when they discover it. And sooner or later they'll do that :( >No kidding, you have not read the messages about this. I got tired >of sending files to people. I did read your message, the point I was trying to make was that you shouldn't have sent them in the first place. >I got tired of trying to set up web >pages that was taking many, many hours and getting no place fast. Setting up a webpage takes only a matters of minutes. Of course, with little or no lack of HTML you'll need to either learn it (better) or use some other tool such as Netscape, Dreamweaver etc. to make the pages. >These will also show up on web searches. So >if someone is looking for DR-DOS 3.41, this group will show up. It >will probably be a while before it gets on search engines, but it >will be there eventually. Sorry no, it will not show up on the search engines since the group will be closed by Yahoo! when they realize that you are spreading copyrighted material on their server. Using a free host (and I don't mean GeoCities, AngelFire or similar) you stand a higher chance that they'll ignore the fact that you are a bit illegal. And by using a webpage you can easily get a new place for it as needed. Please note that I don't actually have any experience with setting up illegal homepages on the Net since I've always stayed clear from that (although I've been tempted from time to time, but never for soemthing that was a direct infrigment of the copyright). //Bernie