Message-ID: <000201c1007b$491561c0$17b857d9@docdos1> From: "Christoph Fuchs" To: References: <001401c0fbfc$0eca8e60$75822a40 AT dbcooper> <009a01c0fcea$347c92e0$cc08e289 AT mpaul> <004b01c0fcf6$71244290$41822a40 AT dbcooper> Subject: drdos.net docdos.net - working correct now! (WAS: Re: New DR-DOS Club and eGroup) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:09:29 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com > > or Christophīs http://www.drdos.net? (Well, my site is still > > This page is no good. All I get when I try to get on this site is > error 403: forbidden. > > I get the same for docdos.net Well, I'm sorry, but I had some problems with my ISP. Now, the websites are working correct and I'm working for a new and better layout (drdos.net). I try to keep your bookmarks working! Do you have got some ideas for any improvements concerning drdos.net or docdos.net? thank you, Christoph ____________________________________ Christoph Fuchs http://www.drdos.net http://www.docdos.net http://www.docdos.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Moran" To: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 11:39 PM Subject: Re: New DR-DOS Club and eGroup > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthias Paul" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 2:13 PM > Subject: Re: New DR-DOS Club and eGroup > > > > On 2001-06-23, Patrick Moran wrote: > > > > > Leaves I have started a new Club and Group at Yahoo. I have > been > > > having a lot of problems with trying to give people links to > > > follow for software related to DRI. Links are broken, sites > > > and software have disappeared. > > > > Hm, I hope not to sound too negative. I appreciate any DRI > > related activism -- in fact, we would need much more of it! > > > > But still, why donīt you point them to Florianīs > http://www.drdos.org > > I think you missed my point. I am sick and tired of links not > working and referring people to links for files that do not exist > any more. I will give some examples as I go with this message. I > do have a link to the www.drdos.org site as it still works and use > it often, but many links on that page are broken. I cannot find > one good link any place for WEBSPYDER Beta 2. The link that I > think you mentions in the DOS FORUM WEB page for DR-DOS 5.0 is no > good. > > In fact I have not been able to connect with any bookmarks I have > or find on web pages for any xxxx.cjb.net site. > > Now people from anywhere can go to this group I made and directly > download these files from there. I currently have DR-DOS 3.40, > 3.41, 5.0, 6.0, Novell DOS 7.0, Concurrent DOS-386 v2.0, and the > Novell DOS 7.0 TIDs, TIPs, Tutors, and other related stuff. No one > has all of this at any one place. Most or some and maybe all of > this is very hard to find, especially the latest versions, > updates, and working automatic updates. > > > or Christophīs http://www.drdos.net? (Well, my site is still > > This page is no good. All I get when I try to get on this site is > error 403: forbidden. > > I get the same for docdos.net > > Also, it seems that your page or pages have been changed as well, > my bookmarks do not work any more for your web pages. > > > around as well, but many external links on the OpenDOS page > > are broken and the info has not been updated. This will remain > > so for "historic reasons" - I would like to add new pages > > but I donīt find the time...) > > This is a real pain in the butt. When I refer people to the > OpenDOS page and the links are broken. I do not have the time to > go to all of the DOS/CP/M/GEM and other websites and check out > their links. The owners should check them and update them. If they > are there for historical purposes, say so and state link no longer > valid next to it. > > > > Personally I have a problem with Yahoo! groups for several > > reasons: > > > > - It is very difficult to configure per email (at least last > > time I tried a couple of months ago), and the web interface > > is confusing and slow at best. Well, I donīt like to > > be dependent on a graphical web browser anyway, because > > it does not allow me to work offline. > > I did not seem to have any such problems. I set everything up in > just a couple of hours and was receiving e-mail almost > immediately. I have joined other groups and do not recall having > to give private information. (You can always lie about that. I > have mailboxes set up just for that purpose and phoney user > information that is setup in Gator and all I do is click on the > profile I want in Gator and it fills out the forms for me > automatically.) > > > - Yahoo asks all kind of privacy info to join a group. > > I am not going to give more info to someone anonymous > > (and commercial!) than I like to. > > > > - By joining them you declare that they can do whatever > > they what to do with the contents and thereby they > > undergo common copyright laws, which are maintained > > in most individually or university funded newsgroups > > and mailing lists... > > You can use phoney filenames and encrypt them and who can do > anything about that? > > > Well, I think that DJ Delorie has done a great job in > > keeping this forum open and up for more than four years > > now and it does not look as if he would plan to abandon it. > > Yes this is a good forum, however he has a lot of restrictions and > a lot of my messages get bounced. > > > Traffic has been very low or quite off-topic recently, > > but I donīt see this changing if everyone has to join > > five or more DR-DOS related groups and chats instead > > of one, and check dozends of websites. So, why *donīt* > > we all join *one* forum (preferably this one, if DJ > > does not plan to abandon it) and refer anyone interested > > in joining this forum as well? > > > Yes but people can go to my group and do it all in one place. > Messages, Chat, Files, links, etc. > > I have e-mail several people each of the following: > DR-DOS 3.41, DR-DOS, WEBSPYDER, DR-DOS 6.0, updates and other > DR-DOS stuff. I have also posted this stuff several times to News > Groups, because it is not available, or links are broken, or the > files are messed up. I have redone the messed up boot sectors, > updates that do not work right, outdated TID, TIPS and other stuff > I have found to be jacked up. > > > The bottom line is: What is the advantage to have > > two instead of one mailing lists dealing with the > > same subject? Donīt you think we should join forces > > instead of cast outselfs in the winds? Pat, I wish > > many people will join your group, but do you think > > that the audience will be different from that in > > this group? If so, why donīt we come together in > > one forum? > > > > Please get this as constructive criticism. > > > > Greetings, > > > > Matthias > > > > BTW. Something that I like to see improved: > > > > Old logs of this group should be made available > > for download somewhere from DJīs site. Preferably > > as ASCII text packed in monthly .ZIP files. > > This would allow to browse the stuff offline. > > DJ, would do you think? > > I think this is a good idea, but how much space does he have at > that site? You can get many megabytes of old DR-DOS stuff like > this right from the Lineo site. Probably 10's of megabytes. I just > downloaded a few of them and it was several MB. Eventually I'll > get them all. > > DB > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >