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From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT daSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: "'opendos AT delorie DOT com'" <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Subject: RE: Confusion (was Explorer, Netscape, Win31, Arachne etc (#2.1))
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:42:46 +1100
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Hi Bernie!

Sorry if you think this is boring - perhaps you need more sunlight?  ;-)

Anyway, clearly there is a little bit of confusion here. The topic was
LSPPP, and what I said was about LSPPP, *not* EPPPD. I hope
that clears things up.   :-)

Also, I hope others haven't found these few messages boring, too.
IMHO, new Internet applications for DOS (eg. LSPPP) are not
off-topic and indeed, are important for the future of DOS.

Joe.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Bernie [SMTP:bernie AT mbox302 DOT swipnet DOT se]
> Sent:	Saturday, 17 March 2001 9:05
> To:	opendos AT delorie DOT com
> Subject:	RE: Explorer, Netscape, Win31, Arachne etc (#2.1)
> 
> Joe wrote:
> >Are you sure it "just fakes" it???
> 
> Yes I'm sure, it (epppd) recognizes the request for a BOOTP answer and
> answers. It never actually issue a BOOTP request.
> 
> >It _should_ provide the _real_ host & DNS IP addresses - at least,
> >it does for me!  <g>   Also, have a look in the "IP-UP.BAT" file it
> >creates - this should have two lines like :
> >   set dns1=123.124.125.126
> >   set dns2=234.235.236.237
> >
> >So, for me at least, it _does_ detect the actual IP addresses. Any
> >application (eg. Arachne) requiring this information has two options :
> >1. Execute IP-UP.BAT and read the environment variables it sets.
> >2. AFAIK, it can also get the info. via BOOTP.
> 
> Ah, but someone must tell EPPPD the values. I have looked several times
> (since this is one of the things that I never seem to be able to persuade
> people I'm correct about) that it actually does this. The program does the
> following (and a lot more of course):
> 
> 1. Gets the data from the outside world (DNS from user, IP from the other
> end).
> 2. Checks if a package it's about to send is a BOOTP question. And if so
> answers with the information it has.
> 
> Please note that the ip-ip.bat file only answers in the same way, once
> more
> nothing is asked anywhere - it just outputs into the file what the user
> gave as input (+ the IP address of course).
> 
> If you happen to see clearly (in the code) that something else is going on
> please tell me what it is, since I can't see it and I have looked several
> times since people constantly seem to think otherwise.
> 
> Since this has nothing to do with OpenDOS at all (and quite frankly is a
> boring subject IMHO) I'll drop this now (especially since I can bet almost
> anything that you will NOT be able to find anything that says otherwise in
> the EPPPD source).
> //Bernie