Sender: root AT snipe DOT prod DOT itd DOT earthlink DOT net Message-ID: <3AAA570D.8E7E7120@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:32:13 -0700 From: Thomas Webb Organization: WordWonder.Com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DR CC: DR-DOS Subject: Re: Toshiba PCM card drivers References: <01C0A926 DOT 082A1180 DOT davidru AT home DOT com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Since this thread seems to have stirred some response (for which I am grateful) I will pass on what we are doing for what it is worth. We have licensed copies of Windows31 that came from the Government along with a bunch of old machines. We install Drdos and windows31 on older machines. It is much faster than Win95 on the same machines, and there is a lot more sharware/freeware out there for DOS/Win31 than for Win9x. DRDOS/OPENDOS as a platform for Win31 smokes compared to MSDOS, and of course is free for our non-profit and school system clients. In applications with users that won't get all choked up if they don't see the MicroSoft logo, we put Arachne on the boxes instead of Win31; it makes a more stable machine and is bulletproof in a school lab. For Win31 over DRDOS, we use packet drivers, the winpkt shim for win31, and trumpet as the tcp/ip stack. Works fine with modems also, with trumpet running to the modem. Arachne has it's own stack, and requires only a modem or a packet driver. NCSA telnet and ftp, irc chat, mp3 player, and all that good stuff are available as plugins for Arachne. In our applications, we run a linux server on the backbone to provide dhcp/bootp services so no one has to screw around with ip numbers. Internet explorer 5.0 is available for Win31, as well as late versions of Netscape, so we have up to date browser and email clients that aren't a shock to the sensibilities of the MicrosSoft addicts. I don't as a general rule use the networking that is included with DRDOS, since that is ndis/ipx oriented and is a hog for resources. We do have a lab setup in a grade school that we setup with DRDOS peer to peer so we could share printers and disk space, and it works like a champ. We ran a ndis shim on top of the ethernet driver that makes it look like a packet driver, and that talks through winpkt to Win31/Trumpet, which gives use TCP/IP access to our linux server which goes to the internet via framerelay. The combination of OPENDOS/DRDOS and Linux has opened the door for us in terms of putting together good labs with Internet facilities using older machines. We have websites at http://cis.pcc.cccoes.edu, http://dcl.cccoes.edu, and http://dcl.pcc.cccoes.edu that are located in our networking lab at the college. There is a DRDOS/Win95/WinNT lab with 20 workstations behind the cis server which is running slackware 7.1 with masquerading. The dcl server is a nine-computer cluster running mosix over slackware linux. Any one interested in how we do all this stuff, email me. We have spent a lot of time with it. -- Tom Webb Come visit at http://wordwonder.com