Sender: root AT avocet DOT prod DOT itd DOT earthlink DOT net Message-ID: <3A916782.EC698C5D@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:35:46 -0700 From: Thomas Webb Organization: WordWonder.Com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: DOS v. Windooozz References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Windoze was the natural result of a need to "dumb down" computer use so that mere mortals could get the benefits. We have Apple and MicroSoft to thank for the massive growth in the microcomputer industry. Without the "consumerization" of the technology, we would still be running CP/M on $8000 8-bit machines. (I was there, and believe me, those were not the "good old days") If you want better tools, they are out there in the form of all the flavors of unix, DR-DOS and the like. The reason Windoze has a virtual lock on the world is that it is ->MARKETED<- big time and is shrinkwrapped in an attractive package. Windoze is a perfect example of the victory of style and cosmetics over content, but it and systems like it will live forever because most of the buying population buys style and content, not substance. Personally, I can't afford the time spent in keeping MicroSoft stuff running cleanly. I use Linux/Xwindows with StarOffice and it is bulletproof on an old Pentium 133. DR-DOS and Arachne are a great combination for 486 and older machines, and Arachne gives you a gui desktop for launching other DOS applications. We are using DR-DOS and Arachne as the default platform for computers we run through the recycling operation, and have had excellent luck with it. The sense I am getting from this thread is that there are a lot of people running Windoze that are dabbling in DOS, but staying firmly entrenched in Windoze. My own experience has been that your experience would be much more pleasant and enriching if you would get an old clunker 486 for $25-$50 and put DR-DOS on it by itself. Bill G never has played well with the other kids, and there's little reason to believe he ever will. -- Tom Webb Come visit at http://wordwonder.com