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From: "Patrick Moran" <pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com>
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Subject: Re: Master/slave settings (was prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with NWCDEX)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:52:05 -0700
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They must be pretty recent. I am not certain how old the CD drive is
that I bought for my brother, but seems like it's been within the last
two years. It is a Creative Labs which also included the PnP AWE 32
card. He can run all of my SB-16 software on this card as well. His CD
did not include some of the things I got with my SB-16 for WINDOZE 3.x

Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT daSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:51 PM
Subject: RE: Master/slave settings (was prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with
NWCDEX)


> You are partly correct.
>
> Older drives had three settings :
> 1. Master drive without slave (aka. single drive).
> 2. Master drive with slave.
> 3. Slave drive.
>
> Newer drives have combined 1 & 2 by adding a few
> more "smarts" to their firmware.
>
> Joe.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Moran [SMTP:pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2001 11:05
> > To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> > Subject: Re: prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with NWCDEX
> >
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > See below.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT daSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
> > To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 4:11 PM
> > Subject: RE: prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with NWCDEX
> >
> >
> > > > It most likely is a combination of both. I just had a thought.
What
> > if
> > > > you were to disable one of the drives in the CMOS setup and
enable
> > the
> > > > one you want to use each time you want to change drives? I don't
> > know if
> > > > this will work. I don't have a lot of experience playing with
IDE
> > stuff.
> > > > If the master and slave settings are purely a hardware thing,
then
> > maybe
> > > > you can do it that way. But if you had a slave without a master
and
> > it's
> > > > not just a hardware thing, then maybe you cannot do this in the
CMOS
> > > > setup.
> >
> >
> > > Uhhh - last time I checked, ATAPI drives are always *disabled*
> > > in the BIOS "CMOS settings" ... however, I have not played
> > > around much with ATAPI-aware BIOSes so, perhaps there are
> > > now some ATAPI-specific BIOS settings that I am not aware
> > > of. Nevertheless, a "disabled" setting for your ATAPI drives is
> > > *always* appropriate and your safest option ...
> >
> > Opppps,, you are right, I was thinking of ZIP and LS-120 and hard
drives
> > at the time I thought of that. You can also leave it set to AUTO.
> >
> > > Also, if you have a single drive on an IDE cable, you should
> > > always set this as master. Sure, sometimes a "slave" setting
> > > may work, but usually it doesn't work or causes trouble.
> > > Similarly, if there are two drives, one must be set as master,
> > > the other as slave.
> >
> > No, No,
> >
> > If you have a seingle drive it should be set as a single drive, this
is
> > sometimes labled CHS but have seen other labels for it. (Talk about
> > standards they cannot even get that straight.) Many times this is
just
> > not installing a jumper or putting it across two pins where it won't
do
> > anything. Some drives have the CHS pins and other do not.(Again
another
> > great standard.)
> >
> > You may be able to run a single drive as a master, but I have always
set
> > single drives to the single setting.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> >
> >
> >
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