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From: "Patrick Moran" <pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com>
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Subject: Re: prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with NWCDEX
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:46:57 -0700
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Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com

That was a 24X, not a 4X and as far as I know all 24X drives are ATAPI
drives. My drive is a 4X but it is SCSI, so I could care less about it
interferring with anything.


Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT daSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 4:22 PM
Subject: RE: prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with NWCDEX


> Answer : Because at least one of his drives, ie. the 4X
> CD-ROM, is most likely to *pre-date* the ATAPI standard
> and is therefore unlikely to comply with it!
>
> Please do not confuse the ATA standard(s) with the
> ATAPI standard, although they have now merged
> somewhat. The ATAPI standard was developed much
> later (and by a different group) than the ATA standard.
>
> Furthermore, it is quite possible that what we see
> in this instance is simply a bug in the software, be
> it NWCDEX or the "Player" software (which may
> assume that only one CD-ROM-like drive exists,
> and ignore the second drive).
>
> Joe.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Moran [SMTP:pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2001 3:48
> > To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> > Subject: Re: prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with NWCDEX
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT daSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
> > To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:59 AM
> > Subject: RE: prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with NWCDEX
> >
> >
> > > The problem with IDE CD-ROMs (don't know anything about
> > > ZIP and LS-120) is that the manufacturers started "adapting"
> > > IDE (ATA) to "make it happen", since the ATA standard had
> > > only been intended for hard disks! So in the beginning was
> > > chaos, with different manufacturers doing their own thing,
> > > until common-sense prevailed and the various parties got
> > > together to formulate the ATAPI standard (to suit such devices
> > > as CD-ROM and tape drives). Since then, compatibility has
> > > improved enormously, which is why it is now possible for
> > > the BIOS itself to recognize and communicate (eg. boot
> > > from) an ATAPI (aka. IDE) CD-ROM.
> >
> > I don't mean to be cruel here, but if the so-called ATAPI STANDARD
is so
> > standard they why is Utz having problems with two APATI devices?
> >
> ----- snip -----
>
>


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