X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <006001c09619$4110e930$4d822a40@dbcooper> From: "Patrick Moran" To: References: <000401c095ea$88f94fa0$30b6abd4 AT qagiorgi> Subject: Re: Dr-dos... Installed! Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:12:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com ----- Original Message ----- From: "White Dragon" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:18 AM Subject: Dr-dos... Installed! > It works perfectly now. There is no need to move gpr files since win98 does > not install them. I haven't installed 98 on this system. the only ones I did were on Gateway computers and used the entire drive for FAT 32. So I am glad they fixed that junk in 98. > Soon i will install a dos browser, mp3 and video > player and maybe a gui (not sure, i'm so tired of double clicking... ;-) ). After about an hour, I am ready to through that *&^% mouse out the window. > Well, I want to know if there is someone who uses the Sound blaster live > 1024 under drdos. Creative does not release driver for dos, and provides > only emulation for SB16 which gives me trouble in a dos box. Since i have > two sound cards (SB live player 1024 and an integrated chip on the main > board), it would be interesting (and useful) have sound under d. Can you disable the one on the MB in BIOS or by jumper? You may be getting an IRQ or BASE address conflict in DOS with both of them installed. I have no experience with that card. I have a genuine SB-16SCSI-II FAST card and a genuine SB PCI64 card. I have not yet installed the PCI64 yet. I selected the PCI64 as it is a legacy card and will work with any OS including a driver in Linux. It may not be as fancy as the one you have, but it works. It does emilate the SB-16 in DOS. When I install it, I'll want to see if the SB-16 programs will work with it, like dignose, play. etc. My bother has the SB-AWE32 card and CDROM. It also works under DOS and WINDOZE. Both of th ones you have are probably PnP, but somehow DOS will see it. My guess is they are using the same IRQ, Base address and DMA channels (1 and 5) for DOS. If there is no way to disable the onboard chip via jumper or CMOS setup, you can always pull the chip(s). Then that will fix the problem. You can get those boards with or without the sound chip(s). make sure you are grounded before pulling the chip(s). You should use a chip puller, but I use any ole small screwdriver I can find to pull them. But I have many years experience doing this and do not bend the pins or damage the chip. > Modem and tcp/ip support are in NWCLIENT? Not tcp/ip or an RAS. There are packages available for tcp/ip and PPP connects (and SLIP for that metter.) One I have is Minuet. You can also steal or use the stuff out of WEBSPYDER. It has all the rcp/ip and PPP stuff in it. In fact if you do not intend to set up a network, you could just remove the PNW and use WEBSPYDER. There is supposed to be an improved version of it out there someplace. Archaine or something similar. I'll be playing with that stuff soon as I now have a ISP with a shell account and they run Linux boxes. > My config.sys at the moment is a mess, i have only 550k of free ram. And > mem.com reports only 64mb of ram (using win9x himem.sys gives problem with > emm386?). I forgot to install the cd extensions. I have an old oti driver > (1996) which i still use in boot disks now. Okay, you do not use both HIMEM.SYS and EMM386 with DRDOS. It works differently. The EMM386 is the equivalent of both MS HIMEM.SYS and EMM386. The DRDOS HIMEM.SYS is for 286 processors. Now that you have the DRDOS multiboot installed, you use the AUTODOS7.BAT and DCONFIG.SYS files for your DOS configuration and setup. Do not use the AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS fies. they could mess up WINDOZE. If you put the CDROM drivers in the CONFIG.SYS file under stupid 95, the dumb thing would try and load both the DOS and WINDOZE drivers and would crash the system. It appears that they fixed that in 98, but why waste the space if both are actually loaded? > It would be better do download a newer one? Most likely this will not be necessary unless DRDOS has a problem with them. 98 probably has the right ones as this is probably an old driver anyway and has been upgraded in 98. > DEVICE=C:\DRDOS\EMM386.EXE MULTI DPMI=ON FRAME=AUTO /V If you do not need EMS memory, set FRAME=NONE > DEVICE=C:\DRDOS\DPMS.EXE > DEVICE=C:\DRDOS\SETVER.EXE (should the last two loaded in high memory?) No, you cannot use DEVICEHIGH with DPMS. Yes you can use DEVICEHIGH with SETVER and should. > SHELL=C:\DRDOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DRDOS\ /E:512 /P:AUTODOS7.BAT > BREAK=OFF > BUFFERS=80 (i think it is too much, Patrick Moran suggested me to use max > 30. I would use 15 or 16 buffers. Then they will load into HMA. I have some games that requires buffers=40 [ultima VIII] ) With NWCACHE installed it won't matter. > FILES=20 (on my 386 i used to set this to 30 and buffers to 40) Anywhere from 20 to 30 is okay. I think I have mine set higher than that for networking purposes and just never bother to change it. > FCBS=4,4 (dont remember what is it) Some evry old programs use it and if you use CP/M-86 it will also use them. I leave it that way. Some people set it to zero. > FASTOPEN=512 (I think it is similar to windows file caching which memorize > the position of files on disk [should 512 be enough?]) That is the most common setting for it and I think it is the default setting. > LASTDRIVE=C You need to change this or your CDROM will never be recognized. I always set it to =Z, but you really only need to set it to the maximum you have. I don't like to have to remember to reset it when I add more partitions or drives to the system, so I set it to the max and forget it. > HISTORY=ON,512,ON > DEVICE=C:\DRDOS\DISPLAY.SYS CON=(EGA,,1) > COUNTRY=39,,C:\DRDOS\COUNTRY.SYS > DOS=HIGH,UMB (i usually put this string at the beginning after emm386) It does not really matter where you put it because DOS is only loaded after the config.sys file is read anyway. > There is a difference between multitasking and task switching? I noticed > that you can only select one during install. Switching is the only one you can use for a 286. You can use either for 386 and higher. The switcher is much like early WINDOZE. It just switches tasks. Multitasking allows programs to be run in the background. I usually set the ticks to 1 and 5. > and this is my autodos7.bat > @ECHO Off > PATH C:\DRDOS;C:\NWCLIENT;;C:\ > EMM386 PIC=ON > DPMI OFF > MODE CON: CP PREP=((850) C:\DRDOS\EGA.CPI) > mode con codepage select=850 > KEYB IT+ > VERIFY OFF > PROMPT $P$G > SET DRDOSCFG=C:\DRDOS > NLSFUNC C:\DRDOS\COUNTRY.SYS > CHCP 850 > SHARE /L:20 > NWCACHE 7670 1024 /LEND=ON /DELAY=ON > ?"Enable Task Manager (Y/N) ?"TASKMGR This looks okay. The only thing is, I don't like to use delayed writes unless I have a UPS connected to the computer. If you lose power, you FAT can get scrambled. Since we lose power quite often around here and sometimes the brownouts will cause the system to reboot and I don't have a UPS, I set the DELAY=OFF. Pat _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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