X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <008001c09552$a04c5d70$c1822a40@dbcooper> From: "Patrick Moran" To: References: <01FD6EC775C6D4119CDF0090273F74A4021F4B AT emwatent02 DOT meters DOT com DOT au> Subject: Re: DR-MOUSE, DPMS (was Hard Disk 20gb and dos) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:18:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com ----- Original Message ----- From: "da Silva, Joe" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: RE: DR-MOUSE, DPMS (was Hard Disk 20gb and dos) > The best way to load DRMOUSE is to *not* try to load it > high. Install (run) it in conventional (lower) memory and it > will load it's resident portion high, all by it's clever little self. > That way, you just need about 7K (IIRC) free in the HMA > to load it high, nothing extra for the initialization code ... Actually, I don't use any LOADHIGH, HILOAD, or LH in any of the DRDOS TSRs/Drivers. I let them all do their own thing. But you made a slight mistake there, DRDOS DRMOUSE does not load into HMA, it loads into upper memory. Oooops, I'll take that back a little. I do not normally load DRMOUSE. If I want it loaded, I just type DRMOUSE and let it load EXECPT when I use Task Manager and intend to use the modem for communications. In that case I force it to load low in each window that I wish to use it, and then unload it before ending a task using it. This is not just a problem unique to DRMOUSE. I have yet to find any mouse driver that can be loaded high and not mess with the communications of the modem when I switch that task to the background. It just halts the data flow. Also I will firce some things to load low when using Personal Netware to get the most use of upper memory. I let VLM do it's thing but paly with the rest such as LSL.COM. The DRDOS memory manager is not too intelligent (like QEMM is) and I have to play around with the small drivers and TSRs to get the best results when using the server. The client does not take that much. However, DRDOS memory manager is a lot smarter than MSDOS's. > Given that DPMS has been mentioned a few times > recently (wrt. NWCACHE and NWCDEX), it reminds me > that we have not come to a conclusion about the > following (discussed several weeks ago) : > > 1. We established that the versions of DPMS.EXE that > could be freely distributed with client programs were > the OpenDOS 7.01 and the Novell DOS versions. So, > which is the best of these two versions to use? Did anyone actually contact Lineo about this? Since it is not a major upgrade, I don't see how they can change Novell's policy on this. They would have had to purchase the license intact and since Novell made it freely available to anyone, I don't see how Caldera/Lineo can/could change it. If it were version 7.1 or something, maybe they could. > 2. Is there any problem (ie. bug) that we need to be > aware of, for whichever is the best version selected > above? (Sure - we ourselves would normally use a > later version (eg. from DR-DOS 7.02+/7.03), but > these cannot be freely distributed ...) I am not aware of any differences or bugs with any version. In fact I don't even know if any code has been changed other than Novell's updates, if there were any. I would have to look at the updated files and see if it is there. I don't recall ever replacing it. There probably is no difference from 7.00 and 7.01. Basically all 7.01 is, is Novell DOS 7.0 with all the upgrades and new updated kernel files. I don't think the even changed the copyright on the rest of the files. There may have been a couple of other changes, but I cannot recall the dates and details as to which was changed and when, but somewhere between Novell 7.0 original release and before 7.02, there were changes in NWCDEX. As I recall this was in update 14. The update was supposed to make it work with Terminate, but I never did get it to work with Terminate. Terminate has a hotkey (ALT-F10 as I recall) to play audio CD's while you were downloading files or idle in some other way. I never could get it to work with my SCSI CDROM. People who had IDE CDROMs reported that it worked. I am pretty certain that was in update 14. There was also an update for 7.02 to 7.03, I don't know if that version of DPMS is 7.02 or 7.03 or inbetween. I have all of these files stored on tape. I don't have any of the updates before 14, as each update contained all the files from previous updates except of course for files that were again updated such as the kernel files. Pat _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com