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From: "Da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT DaSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: "'opendos AT delorie DOT com'" <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Subject: RE: DOS and WIN/98
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:06:24 +1100
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I agree (except for #7, though) - the DOS *isn't* the problem;
I use the M$-DOS 7.10 stuff all the time with M$W95B ... :-).

What is more, my M$W95B / M$D7.10 is set-up as a
traditional Windoze-over-DOS installation, ALA M$W3.X.
Windoze is only started-up by "WIN" in AUTOEXEC.BAT,
and then only if I answer "Y" to the "Windoze?" prompt!

Oh, and to make it even more interesting, I use the DR-DOS
multibooter, so I can boot to DR-DOS 7.02+ or M$ crap, as
I wish. The only problem is that DR-DOS "stuffs up" (US
translation : "screws up" ;-) the LFN entries, which is
disappointing for DR-DOS (note that this is just a nuisance,
it doesn't actually cause things to misbehave ...).

Joe.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Vidmantas Balciunas [SMTP:vibal AT lrtc DOT lt]
> Sent:	Wednesday, 24 January 2001 6:49
> To:	opendos AT delorie DOT com
> Cc:	Nicholas DOT D DOT Blaszak AT state DOT or DOT us
> Subject:	Re: DOS and WIN/98
> 
> It's definitely not a DOS problem. It's may be
> 1. a virus
> 2. some strange DOS TSR's.
> 3. DOS programs that require a graphic mode
> 4. problems with video card related to:
>   a. old drivers
>   b. refresh settings (especially on old ATI video cards)
>   c. non p&p monitor (AKA refresh problems)
> 5. BIOS settings related with video
> 6. hardware/drivers related problems, such as problems with cheep
> nVidia based video cards/drivers (Vanta, TNT, TNT2 M64) PC crash
> switching many times between text and graphics modes.
> 7. old Windows version (Win95 / 98) not Win98SE / ME
> 8. a virus ;-)
> 
> Use FAR instead. It's a Windows text mode program, it's very useful for
> all
> DOS lovers, and it has a DOS prompt:
> 
> http://www.rarsoft.com/download.htm
> 
> Vidas
> 
> P.S. Need more info to more accurate diagnostic, such as m/b model,
> video card model, Windows version, version of drivers, etc. 
> 
> P.S.S. It's not safe to use PC, not a DOS or Windows ;-))
> 
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> 
> On 2001.01.23   at 10:05 BLASZAK Nicholas D wrote:
> 
> >The problem; For several months, since I've been upgraded to a Pentium
> III
> >600 mh Tangent, I have experienced severe shutdown and boot up problems. 
> >I am the only one in my department of about 30 persons, who have this
> >difficulty.  Many of my peers have the same PC.  I am the ONLY DOS user,
> >and our PC administrator is blaming my problems on my use of DOS!  He
> >claims that DOS is illegitimate now, and not really a safe thing to use
> >etc. etc.
>