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From: "Patrick Moran" <pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com>
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Subject: Re: Fonts & VCPI (was BASIC & EMS, nee Optimizing CONFIG.SYS...)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 04:05:08 -0700
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Fonts in text mode????

I have no fonts in text mode. The people here do not want RTF.


Have you tried DV with DRDOS VCPI with the latest verion of DRDOS? According
to Quterdeck, Novell DOS 7 VCPI doesn't work very good with it.

Pat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT DaSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: Fonts & VCPI (was BASIC & EMS, nee Optimizing CONFIG.SYS...)



> > with the two 16 bit program pointers. I hate having to use text to do
> > this.
> >  HTML is so much better.
> >
> > Well I tried, and this piece of crap OE is just that a piece of crap and
> > it
> > fif what I expected. It looks great untin I save it. Then I looked at it
> > again before I sebt it. I could not make heads or tails of the diagram I
> > originally typed into the message. So I went to DOS and did it in a REAL
> > text editor. I'll now try and import the text file. The last time I did
> > that, the stupid piece of crap OE made FOUR copies of it! What a piece
of
> > crap, the only editor I have ever worked with that was a worse piece of
> > crap
> > was EDLIN! If it does not work, I'll just leave it the way it comes out
so
> > everyone can see what a piece of crap OE is and attach a small text file
> > that works right.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                       15                Offset               0
> >                        |-------------------------------------|
> >                        |             Base Pointer            |
> >                        |------------------|------------------|
> >                        |                  |                  |
> >                        |                  |      Appended    |
> >        15              |                  |  0<----zeros---->|
> >         |---------------------------------|------------------|
> >         |    Segment Register             |  | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
> >         |---------------------------------|------------------|
> >        19                      ^          |         ^        0
> >         |                      |          |         |        |
> >         |                      |----|-----|---------|        |
> >         |                           |     |                  |
> >         |                           |     |                  |
> >         |                        |--|-----|-----|            |
> >         |                        |     Adder    |            |
> >         |                        |------|-------|            |
> >         |                               |                    |
> >         |                               |                    |
> >        19                               |                    0
> >         |-------------------------------|--------------------|
> >         |                  A19-A0  Address bits              |
> >         |----------------------------------------------------|
> >                               20 bit address
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The lower 4 bits of the Segment register is hardwaied to zeros inside
the
> > chip. the adder is where we need to look to see how the quirks occur. If
> > you
> > look at the above diagram, (probably won't come out worth a crap using
> > text)
> >
> [da Silva, Joe]
>
> OK, I'll simply assume that Outlook Express uses the same
> fonts as Outlook ... in which case the above diagram is displayed
> correctly if you choose any of the following fonts :
>
> - Courier
> - Fixedsys
> - Terminal
>
> ----- snip -----
>
> > > These allowed programs to access extended memory "behind the back" of
> > > DOS.  Two standards developed for accessing protected mode:
> > >
> > > * VCPI (the Virtual Control Program Interface)
> > > * DPMI (the DOS Protected Mode Interface)
> > >
> > > Because the latter had the marketing clout of MS behind it , it has
> > > become the more common standard.  It is used by MS Windows, among
other
> > > programs.
> >
> > Yes just like everything else Gates does he made it incompatible with
> > Quaterdeck's VCPI which was developed first. BTW If you look at memory
> > with
> > a good memory program, it will show that DRDOS also uses VCPI. I have
not
> > checked to see if it is there without DPMI turned on, but as I
understand
> > it
> >
> [da Silva, Joe]
>
> Yes, VCPI is definitely provided by DR-DOS's EMM386 when DPMI
> is turned off (that's the way I configure it ... for various
> reasons).



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