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From: "Patrick Moran" <pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
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Subject: Re: BIOS upgrading (was Optimizing CONFIG.SYS...)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 03:48:38 -0700
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Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com

I may not have mentioned it directly, but seem toremember stating tht I did
have an updtae program to remove the SCSI stuff.. Most of the time you do
not even need a manual, most boards I have seen have good silk screening and
all this stuff is clearly marked. BTW I don have the original manual for
this board. When I bought it from an ebay auction, I asked the person if he
had the manual, he said no but would check with the local dealer he bought
it from. His dealer sent it to me.

I should make a point though, you cannot simply plugin a blank EEPROM and
start up the computer to program it. Without any BIOS program, the system
will not noot, and does not know anything about anything in the computer.
The processor goes to the startup address and finds no program. So the only
way to change from EPROM to EEPROM is to either have an EEPROM already
programmed, or do a Hot Swap after the computer has booted. I do not
recommend doing a hot swap unless you are a professional and have the proper
insulated tools to do it.

Pat





----- Original Message -----
From: "Da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT DaSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: BIOS upgrading (was Optimizing CONFIG.SYS...)


> Ahhh, yes ... if the MB has a different jumper configuration for
> EPROM and Flash, then obviously changing it's setting as
> appropriate can "take you where you want to go" - no problem.
>
> OTOH, if the MB is simply an EPROM type, or if you don't
> change the required jumper setting (if available), because
> you don't have the manual or because you don't realise you
> need to, then you can't just substitute a Flash part for an
> EPROM part, and expect to do on-board reprogramming.
> I don't recall any prior mention of the MB having a dual
> EPROM/Flash configuration (perhaps I missed this?),
> hence my comments ...
>
> Hope that clears things up.   :-)
>
> Joe.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Moran [SMTP:pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2000 21:05
> > To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> > Subject: Re: BIOS upgrading (was Optimizing CONFIG.SYS...)
> >
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT DaSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
> > To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 5:47 PM
> > Subject: RE: BIOS upgrading (was Optimizing CONFIG.SYS...)
> >
> >
> > > Almost right, except :
> > >
> > > Unless the MB was designed incorrectly, you cannot program
> > > a Flash part "using just the motherboard", if the MB originally
> > > used an EPROM. You need a separate EPROM programmer.
> >
> > I am not jumpimg on you , I just don't want to start another arguement
> > here,
> > so just take my word for it, Stepen is absolutly right and I can do
this.
> > See the a previous message I wrote to him
> >
> > The motherboard will use EITHER an EPROM or an EEPROM and can be
> > programmed
> > on the MB. I have the software and the program that will remove the SCSI
> > from the BIOS. All I have to do is change a jumper to do the
programming.
> >
> ----- snip -----


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