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From: "Patrick Moran" <pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com>
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Subject: Re: Misinterpretation? (was BASIC & EMS, nee Optimizing CONFIG.SYS...)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:51:09 -0700
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It does not say anything about XMS being better or worse then EMS. What I
meant to say was extended, XMS is extended.

Pat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT DaSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: Misinterpretation? (was BASIC & EMS, nee Optimizing
CONFIG.SYS...)


> Ahem!
>
> To quote from your original anti-EMS message (Nov 24) :
>
> " Of course I don't use EMS, I hate EMS and so
> not use it unless I have a program that really REQUIRES it. I have dunped
> most of those programs and found ones that use XMS. "
>
> Sorry! ...   ;-)
>
> Joe.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Moran [SMTP:pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2000 22:16
> > To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> > Subject: Re: BASIC & EMS (was: Optimizing CONFIG.SYS...)
> >
> > Yes, you are correct on this, but I did not want to elaborate, because
the
> > discussion is already out of hand with a bunch nit-picking. I just
wanted
> > to
> > distinguish that it does use real memory and the memory does physically
> > exist in your computer. In fact virtual memory  can be any kind of
memory
> > storage, like bubble memory, a tape drive, or any other device that can
> > store binary data. Even though I did not state it, virtual memory is
also
> > real physcial memory that stores binary data. But before I get stomped
on
> > these devices like tape and hardrives can also be made to use for
storing
> > analog data as well. In fact Tape drives, hard drives and other assorted
> > instruments used to store binary data are actually analog devices that
> > store
> > the binary data in analog format. Raw binary data cannot be directly
> > stored
> > on a tape drive or a hard drive, as it can in silicon, it must first be
> > converted and encoded. He also made some statement that it is not memory
> > that memory is made out of silicon by memory manufactures. He is also
> > wrong
> > there as well. That is synthetic memory, real memory are the neuron
cells
> > in
> > your brain. We just make use of the physical properties of solid state
> > physics with silicon memory to store binary data. He has really just
gone
> > too far. He will probably argue that and say that neurons are some
> > spcification and neurons don't really exist!     Neuron: A specialized
> > impulse-conducting cell that is a functional unit of the nervous system.
I
> > even have a diagram of a typical neuron.
> >
> > I have had it with this nit-picking.
> >
> > I will say one last thing about it. DR DOS's Task manager DOES NOT swap
> > tasks in memory. It does not shove memory through a tiny 64k window, you
> > switch from one virtual 8086 machine to another and no memory is being
> > swapped from one loaction to another except for such things such as your
> > video card which has it's own on board memory rewritten to view the new
> > window you are looking at on your CRT and other such types of memory if
I
> > happen to leave one out. Task manager does not require any EMS memory,
it
> > can however utilize it if you install it. I don't install EMS or use it
in
> > normal operations of my computer. I did with DV, but no longer use DV. I
> > originally stated that I hated EMS memory, I still do and probably
always
> > will. I never originally stated that XMS memory was better, in fact, I
> > don't
> > even recall saying ANYTHING about XMS in my orginal statement.. Someone
> > else made that erroneous interpretation.
> >
> ----- snip -----


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