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From: "Da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT DaSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: "'opendos AT delorie DOT com'" <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Subject: RE: Misinterpretation? (was BASIC & EMS, nee Optimizing CONFIG.SY
	S...)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:14:18 +1100 
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Ahem!

To quote from your original anti-EMS message (Nov 24) :

" Of course I don't use EMS, I hate EMS and so
not use it unless I have a program that really REQUIRES it. I have dunped
most of those programs and found ones that use XMS. "

Sorry! ...   ;-)

Joe.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Patrick Moran [SMTP:pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, 5 December 2000 22:16
> To:	opendos AT delorie DOT com
> Subject:	Re: BASIC & EMS (was: Optimizing CONFIG.SYS...)
> 
> Yes, you are correct on this, but I did not want to elaborate, because the
> discussion is already out of hand with a bunch nit-picking. I just wanted
> to
> distinguish that it does use real memory and the memory does physically
> exist in your computer. In fact virtual memory  can be any kind of memory
> storage, like bubble memory, a tape drive, or any other device that can
> store binary data. Even though I did not state it, virtual memory is also
> real physcial memory that stores binary data. But before I get stomped on
> these devices like tape and hardrives can also be made to use for storing
> analog data as well. In fact Tape drives, hard drives and other assorted
> instruments used to store binary data are actually analog devices that
> store
> the binary data in analog format. Raw binary data cannot be directly
> stored
> on a tape drive or a hard drive, as it can in silicon, it must first be
> converted and encoded. He also made some statement that it is not memory
> that memory is made out of silicon by memory manufactures. He is also
> wrong
> there as well. That is synthetic memory, real memory are the neuron cells
> in
> your brain. We just make use of the physical properties of solid state
> physics with silicon memory to store binary data. He has really just gone
> too far. He will probably argue that and say that neurons are some
> spcification and neurons don't really exist!     Neuron: A specialized
> impulse-conducting cell that is a functional unit of the nervous system. I
> even have a diagram of a typical neuron.
> 
> I have had it with this nit-picking.
> 
> I will say one last thing about it. DR DOS's Task manager DOES NOT swap
> tasks in memory. It does not shove memory through a tiny 64k window, you
> switch from one virtual 8086 machine to another and no memory is being
> swapped from one loaction to another except for such things such as your
> video card which has it's own on board memory rewritten to view the new
> window you are looking at on your CRT and other such types of memory if I
> happen to leave one out. Task manager does not require any EMS memory, it
> can however utilize it if you install it. I don't install EMS or use it in
> normal operations of my computer. I did with DV, but no longer use DV. I
> originally stated that I hated EMS memory, I still do and probably always
> will. I never originally stated that XMS memory was better, in fact, I
> don't
> even recall saying ANYTHING about XMS in my orginal statement.. Someone
> else made that erroneous interpretation.
> 
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