Message-Id: <3.0.16.19901102075053.2caf9ace@tellus.swip.net> X-Sender: mt58779 AT tellus DOT swip DOT net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (16) To: opendos AT delorie DOT com From: Bernie Subject: Re: About Micro$quash DOS 7 (hiding in Win98). Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:53:56 +0100 Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Patrick wrote: >Yes they work okay, but I said "These are a pain for installing in 95" You >have to do everything in a specific order and reboot after installing each >component. Ah, I see your point. But this is AFAIK regarding installing anything in Windows (9x anyway). Last time I screwed up the order (I think I missed installing DirectX 3 before 7 or something else that shouldn't make a diffrence). Once when I wanted to reinstall it took me three days to get NIC, TV-card and graphics card to work at the same time (with the drivers I wanted to use). I'm lucky I have my SCSI card in the other computer so I don't need to fight with that as well ;-) >The II and III ARE NOT Pentium Pro. Do not confuse them. The II and III were >optimized for WINDOZE. i.e. instead of the hardware dictating things, now >the MS crap for software is dictating the hardware!!!! Everything I've ever read about this subject is that (basically - there are smaller changes as well of course). A Pentium II is a Pentium Pro with more cache and MMX support. This is easily verified - run a program that's not supposed to work on a Pentium Pro and it will be obvious that it doesn't work on a Pentium II/III for the same reasons (CyberDogs is a small and fun game that comes to mind). Often these errors are claimed to be on the CPU speed but if you really dig into the information you'll see that it is due to a basic diffrence in Pentium Pros and others. My 400MHz AMD K6-2 is clearly above the 200MHz that's often mentioned as the culprit for the programs/games to not work but it still works since it's based on the 8086 (as opposed to Pentium Pros/II/III that are based on Pentium Pros). >What do you do when you run out of virtual memory???? The system will crash >and burn! I have run out of VM and 9x tells me to close applications. That (running out of memory) has only happened once for me - but that was with very little memory (4MB) and in Win 3.11, the funny thing was that I didn't have enough memory to close windows since that was what I was doing ;-) In general the normal ammount of RAM in your machine is more than enough. And yes I do run several things at once - where several programs might even claim to use more than my maximum ammount of RAM. >However, in >NT you can actually stop individual processes much like you can in Linux. It is possible (for user started processes) in 9x as well. But I think xkill is a much easier way to do it in a graphical environment than what NT and 9x offers.