From: "Florian Xaver" To: Subject: Re: PTS-DOS etc. Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 19:47:32 +0200 Message-ID: <01bfe9cd$c24c21c0$7e5ab7d4@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Info: There are some FreeDOS GUI project's (FreeGEM, SEAL, OpenGUI, etc.) at www.freedos.org so long, florian -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Robert W Moss An: opendos AT delorie DOT com Datum: Samstag, 08. Juli 2000 22:02 Betreff: Re: PTS-DOS etc. >Personally, I like the x-windows idea. If GEOS could do it back in 1987, > >how come no-one except IBM and MS have done it since. Gem was a >good idea, but lack of icons gave it a clunky appearance and problably >caused a lot of people to disregard it. I never did like the blank >screen >black w/white letters or blue w/white letters (better) or white w/black >letters >and no control panel or drop down command windows. > >There are many people out there making icons and wallpaper for >GEOS/New Deal and a lot of the stuff is freeware. The only problem was >the restriction to low density screens. Now they have a 64bit version, >which I have not yet installed, which may be interesting. > >Memorizing 700 different commands for DOS and every dos based program >you use is actually pretty taxing on the grey cells and I find myself >having to >refer to my 100+ volume library all the time when I enter the command I >think >is right but doesn't do the job, even when there is a popup or dropdown >window >available. A lot of the DOS programs don't have a good help file and >never a >HyperText file to refer to. This would be a requirement for a good DOS >environment. > >The GEM Freeware site has a lot of stuff available but it is mostly left >at >the same point Digital Research left it at when it was dropped. > >Is it possible that there is someone out there who is quietly doing the >same >for free/open DOS. > >Throw that in with multi-tasking and advanced memory management, >ie. use of all memory up to 700+ megs, and we would be out there with >Gnu-Linux. That would make a lot of people happy, as they could install >games and test programs and do word processing etc etc to their hearts >content. > >Every little thing helps and makes DOS easier to use. > > >On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:33:39 +0200 "Florian Xaver" >writes: >> Hi! >> >> I found on an archive the beta (1995!!) from PTS-DOS 7.0. I >> downloaded it >> and read the readme. This is very interesting (but I don't think >> that they >> will do that :( ): >> >> _________ We are going to make: >> - Virtual extended memory // >> very >> interesting (but not included in PTS 2000, I think) >> - Decrease required memory size to <2Mb >> - Accelerate disk operations by~40% >> - DPMI support >> // >> like above >> - Windows support >> - Writing in HPFS, CHKDSK and FORMAT programs with HPFS >> - Built-in CD-ROM support >> >> // I think they mean, that you can start it in config.sys with the >> install >> command. >> >> - Built-in mouse driver >> - Built-in disk compression utility >> - Built-in antivirus protection >> - Built-in network >> - COM-port buffering >> - 4DOS commands support in COMMAND.COM >> - UPS support // whats that? >> - Green functions // whats that? >> >> And for the future :) >> >> - PTS-DOS 8.0: multitasking DOS in text mode, new features: >> concurrent executing of DOS, Windows, OS/2 full screen >> and DESQview applications >> print spooler >> Clipboard, common with Windows >> NTFS and Windows 95 FAT support >> Flash-RAM support >> REXX command files support >> OS/2 full screen tasks executing >> >> - PTS-DOS 9.0 (PTS-Win 2000): multitasking operating system with >> graph >> interface. New features: >> TCP/IP support >> graphic interface based on X Windows ¿ OSF/Motif standards >> concurrent executing of DOS, DESQview, Windows, Windows 95, >> OS/2 (full screen ¿ PM), BSD Unix programs. >> >> >> It would be interesting, if they continue developing now and which >> features >> they will include (if they continue.) If FreeDOS would have this >> features >> like PTS 8.0 I would be lucky :-)))))) >> But maybe in the future... >> >> >> Another question: >> FreeDOS (the kernel) had also an IFS file. Did it include the FAT >> system >> like PTS-DOS? >> If yes, why is it included into the kernel yet? It would be easier to >> include more file systems!! >> >> At the end: I included the full readme file! It isn't a word file, >> only >> plain text. >> >> Bye, Florian >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> Seal - free desktop enviroment for DOS >> http://www.seal.de.vu >> FreeDOS >> (English) http://www.freedos.org >> (German) http://www.freedos.de.vu >> Dr-DOS unofficial homepage >> http://www.drdos.org >> Download Dr-DOS here: http://download.drdos.org >> Donate the rainforest: http://www.therainforestsite.com/ >> > >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >