Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:29:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Steven Hurdle <ya830 AT victoria DOT tc DOT ca>
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To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
Subject: PC-Pine and DR-DOS w/Personal NetWare
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   I have a question about using the Pine e-mail programme with DR-DOS's
Personal NetWare.

   I use a local "community network" for my e-mail.  They're running UNIX
as their OS and Pine as their e-mail app.  I dial in with a bland and
boring terminal programme and get free e-mail and non-graphical internet
access.  It's great.

   My roommate came across the idea of using PC-Pine as an off-line mail
reader.  Pine leaves its mail in ".MTX" format (where all messages in a
mail directory are in one large text file).  I could download the mail
files from the community network's Pine for UNIX and read them in PC-Pine. 
I've done this already and it works wonderfully. 

   PC-Pine expect to be on a network and isn't designed to run on its own,
unfortunately, from what I can tell.  Pine, however, has the ability to
let a user "postpone" a message so that you can finish composing it later. 
It writes all the "postponed" messages into a single file.  I could upload
this single file and then send off the postponed messages.  Elegant and
simple.  The problem is that Pine refuses to compose anything because it
can't find a network. 

   What I was hoping to do was use DR-DOS's in-built networking to create
a "dummy" network.  Since I won't actually be sending mail over a network,
I suspect that Pine will let me do what I want to do if it simply THINKS
it's on a network, even though it actually isn't.  Does anyone know how to
create a dummy network (or a real one, for that matter) without one
actually existing?  My preliminary attempts with DR-DOS 7.02 have involved
me trying different Networking settings in SETUP.EXE, all of them failing
to let me run NET.EXE.  NET.EXE complains that it can't find the modules,
and the modules won't load because they can't find a networking card.  :(

   So, any thoughts on creating a dummy network, or on convincing Pine to
stop looking for one, would be graciously appreciated.


							Steven Hurdle