Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:29:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Steven Hurdle <ya830 AT victoria DOT tc DOT ca>
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Subject: Re: Gem/3.  A big YES vote here.
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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Philippe DALLEMAGNE wrote:

|GEM stuff (system and apps) is available at GEMWORLD : http://cws86.kyamk.fi/mirrors/cpm/gemworld.html

   I'll probably download it and check it out.  Thanks!

|GEM runs fine on my 8086 Olivetti Quaderno Laptop (I gave GEM a run on different machines, from Pentium II/Win95 in 16-color VGA (the best GEM can achieve) to DOS 5.0 Quaderno in 640x400 mono (the best the Quaderno can achieve)).
|
|I would like to add something about GEOS/New Deal Office : even if the
|shareware version of NDO is not that attractive, NDO itself is very nice. 
|It is highly configurable. It runs also fine on my Quaderno. It is of
|course bigger than GEM but it is also more complete. NDO can handle 16
|millions color display and connects to the internet.  IMHO, NDO
|applications are far better (than GEM ones) even though GEM covers a
|large number of functionalities.  And, the last but not the least, NDO is
|alive and GEM is *dormant*. 

   Absolutely.  With New Deal I can import and export documents to both
Rich Text (.RTF) and HTML formats, as an example of modern features that I
need that older programmes lack.  I'll download it and see what it offers,
though.

|IMHO, Caldera *must* include a GUI for DR-OpenDOS (whatever it is) and
|GEM seems to be a very good candidate, because it is simple, compact and
|efficient (for simple tasks) and Caldera has strong links with DR stuff. 
|
|But if you come to the need of a complete and powerful DOS application
|suite, NDO is (almost, nothing is perfect) perfect. This is my favourite. 

   I agree that New Deal is the best supported and most fully-featured DOS
office suite/GUI.  If nothing else, Caldera could get the rights to
include the basic GUI/file-management capabilities of NDO that are so well
designed to run with DR-DOS.  I love just double-clicking on a DOS
programme in NDO and having New Deal automatically start up a new task for
it in TaskManager.  Despite being written by DR, is GEM as well integrated
with DR-DOS as that? 



							Steven Hurdle