From: Philippe DALLEMAGNE Message-Id: <199810150737.JAA06512@ensem.u-nancy.fr> Subject: Re: GEM GUI To: opendos AT delorie DOT com Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:37:55 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199810141717.NAA03950@internet1.net> from Chad Fernandez at "Oct 14, 98 01:27:26 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL20 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com > On 1998-10-13 opendos AT delorie DOT com said to fernande AT internet1 DOT net > I messed around with the New Deal Publish that they will let you download as > shareware. I was impressed, but not enough to stop using Win 3.1 along with > DOS. One of the things I didn't like was every thing was so BIG on my New Deal Office has been widely improved in its presentation and functions during these last months. A new release is due to be out soon. However, I don't if it will correct all your points. > screen. It was like running Win 3.1 with an EGA scrren, but worse. The > icons were huge, as were the borders. That's true, but you get used to it. Even if the habits are different (not a lot), you will find NDO easier to use, in general, after a while. > Also , going by what I read on the web site I didn't think any of the New > deal products would run on an 8088. I recall seeing an XT version in the > works in the future products area, However. Yes, they announce a 80286 and up compatibility. But it *is* compatible with a 8088/8086 as lonng as it runs at, say - at least, 8 MHz. I have a 8086 system running NDO. The XT version is, AFAIK, the older Geos Ensemble 1.2. Not a bargain, IMO. > >it, and at least one more in the works (guess what it'll look like > >:)). The existing user interfaces are very flexible and can be > >made to look like other UIs with some tweaking. I've been able to > >make Motif, for example, look like either Win 3.1 or Win 95 through > >adjusting options regarding the layout of gadgets. New Deal also > >has an "Express", menu which is what Microsoft modelled Win95's > >"Start" menu on so they're extremely similar. > > How do you change the look of the New Deal? I was trying to remove the > bottom buttons that were so huge, but couldn't figure out how. I also > wanted to resize the windows permantly. I could resize them ,nut they > always defaulted to the original size. All the features described here are available in the new release of NDO. The shareware version does not allow the change of the look, etc. (which is a pity, IMO). > I am not so sure I agree. New Deal seems to be focusing on older slower > machines much more than I think Caldera is. New Deal is aiming its products > towards schools and business that have old equipment. Caldera really like > the embedded products as a market. DR-DOS also goes well with Open Linux, I > have read. I see Caldera as looking forward, but New Deal as backwards to > support machines (and in effect people) that got left behind and bring them > up to speed as best as can be. NDO runs under DOS (any flavour), OS/2, Linux (DOSEMU), Win 9x, Win NT, anything that provide a DOS compatible layer. I am using NDO (and its predecessors) since 1992, and I have always found it productive and efficient, even on fast Pentiums/K6... bye. Philippe.