Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 16:36:52 -0600 (MDT)
From: Roger Ivie <IVIE AT cc DOT usu DOT edu>
Subject: Re: ClosedDos???
To: OPENDOS AT delorie DOT com
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Arkanoid wrote:
> > From: Roger Ivie <IVIE AT cc DOT usu DOT edu>
> > > The system is not just the kernel: i mean what you see when you type
> > > "show memory"..
> >
> > You are complaining that modern VAXen have more memory installed than
> > old VAXen? What does that have to do with C?
> No,i mean how much memory is used when the system,drivers etc.. is loaded.

Other than possibly some very recent shared images, none of that is 
written in C in VAX/VMS. In other words, it's not C's fault that 
VAX/VMS memory requirements have gone up.

Furthermore, all of the things that _might_ be C are pageable; you don't
need physical memory to hold them, you just need pagefile space.

> Hmm,you have the complete source? 

Call DEC and tell them you want part number QB-001AB-E8. That's the
source listings kit for VAX/VMS. It will cost you somewhere around
US$1,935 according to the Digital online store.

You won't get listings for LMF and a few other similar bits of the system,
but you will get listings for the kernel, drivers, utilities, and even
DECwindows.

Roger Ivie
ivie AT cc DOT usu DOT edu