Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:41:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike A. Harris" Reply-To: "Mike A. Harris" To: "Jason M. Daniels" cc: opendos AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [opendos] Wishlist v2.0 In-Reply-To: <9703280048.AA25501@rgfn.epcc.Edu> Message-ID: Organization: Total disorganization. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Jason M. Daniels wrote: > >in several files, due to all the graphics and stuff. Apart from that, it's > >a fine markup language; we will need a standard covering the exact means of > >compressing an entire HTML document into a .zip - the name of the > >root html file in the .zip should be index.htm, filenames should be 8.3 > >for legacy reasons (people won't be seeing the filenames used in the .zip > >anyway, so pretty LFNs aren't really necessary). > > Keeping the files in the archive (which I personally think should be > .tgz, not .zip, since more platforms support .tgz than .zip) in 8.3 is a > good idea, but I think a "directory" file should be included with full > LFNs, in case the user wants to browse the archive manually or > selectively, or wants to maintain the files. (it's a lot easier to tell > what a file is when it has a LFN :) I disagree with your comments about using tgz instead of zip. Reason? 1) We are talking about DOS. The most common archiver for DOS is ZIP/PKZIP hands down. Almost everyone allready has it, or can easily get it. It is very simple to use. There is even WinZIP for those who cant understand the simple command line. 2) Contrary to what you have said, ZIP is available for at least as many platforms as TGZ is or more. The source code for ZIP/UNZIP is just as commonly available, and compiles out of the box for DOS/all Unices/VMS/amiga, etc.... Although, I agree that adding some parts of UNIX to DOS is definately an asset (GNU everything, DJGPP, 4DOSish/bash, etc...) I disagree about trying to change an accepted widely used standard. Personally I use RAR in DOS for all my needs, but ZIP for files that are for other people. In Linux I use TGZ excluseively (even though I have ZIP). I guess my compression motto is "when in Rome, do like the Romans". For LFN's, I think we should keep things simple. We are dealing with DOS which uses a standard 8.3 format, VFAT will probably be added for W95 users, and as a IFS later, but the NATIVE format of DOS is FAT. Besides, there is no need to look at the filenames. Type "HELP" and up comes the HTML browser which then extracts "index.htm" out of "C:\OPENDOS\HELP\HELPHTML.ZIP". To navigate, you just use the browser. If you want to start on a particular page, just say "HELP FORMAT", and up comes "format.htm" from HELPHTML.ZIP". There is no need to manipulate the ZIP file directly and no need to know what the internal filenames are. In fact "format.htm" will probably be a file converted from SGML sources and end up with a name like HELP0243.HTM or something close. Just my ideas anyway. What do you think? Mike A. Harris | http://blackwidow.saultc.on.ca/~mharris Computer Consultant | Coming soon: dynamic-IP-freedom... My dynamic address: http://blackwidow.saultc.on.ca/~mharris/ip-address.html mailto:mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca