From: mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:51:58 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca To: Bjorn DOT Simonsen AT student DOT uib DOT no cc: opendos AT mail DOT tacoma DOT net Subject: Re: [opendos] The Caldera Page In-Reply-To: <199702041048.LAA16050@taxus.uib.no> Message-ID: Organization: Total disorganization. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-opendos AT mail DOT tacoma DOT net Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 Bjorn DOT Simonsen AT student DOT uib DOT no wrote: > OK, maybe upgrading a soup bowl in the linux environment is not as > expensive as it would be when dining in the MS- or IBM worlds (where I > live) , but still - listen. I access the World Wide Wait by > e-mail from my home computer. Thus I get the same result as the lynx > user who complained about this. Thus, OpenDos is NOT OpenlyAvailable. Yes, it would be nice if W3 pages realized that people DO still use text mode. > Next, what ever happened to plain FTP? I connected to ftp.caldera.com - > looking for information about OpenDOS - and the software it self - but > no, nothing there as far as I could tell. ( I downloaded the README > and msg's I found there, but they all said the same: Welcome, you > are now at ftp. caldera.com, and nothing more - as if I didn't now) I > even downloaded their FAQ about them self, but it said nothing about > OpenDos. For most people, downloading files via FTP is the *ONLY* way to go. Too many times I've downloaded something in Netscape only to see it crash during the last 2% of a 8meg download at 14.4kbps. I'm sure Caldera will put up the files for FTP though. > I truly believed the new(?) OpenDos community(?) and the well > established linux community would be tuned and considerate towards > text-only users, but it doesn't seem to be so ! It's the same Yeah, I'm actually kind of surprised at this one. We're supposed to be fascinated with OpenDOS (and I am), but we're supposed to download it in Windows? Kinda like shooting yourself in the foot. I had to use NS to download it too, and I wasn't happy about that cause NS crashes all of the time. Luckily I got it. Would have been nice to use LYNX or ncftp though. > Sigh!! Frames and live animation, click here to se a picture of my mum, > or click here to read the next sentence. Frames and live animation, Yes, I get annoyed by all of this stuff too. The biggest annoyance is pages with live midi music on them. I keep getting a popup dialog box saying "application type x-midi not supported" which I have to cancel out 50 times. Funny thing is that I *DO* have a midi player for Linux, it *DOES* work, and it *IS* set up as a helper app in NS! Beats me why it doesn't work in NS. I don't particularly care to hear a bunch of music while doing some browsing at 3am either though. Tends to make you spill your coffee. > less and less information. Does any one care that the majority of > people accessing the Internet access it by e-mail only? I've got to disagree here. The majority of people access the internet via dialup PPP/SLIP or UNIX shell access, or directly from work/school. The people who access via email are the minority of users. Since you can get full access to the net for about $20/month virtually anywhere, it is easy to solve the problems associated with ftp/www/archie/gopher/etc via email by just getting a real account. > To me the OpenDos is closed. OpenDOS is new, and their pages are also new. I'm positive that Caldera will make their pages easily accessible for EVERYONE, including LYNX users. Also, I'm sure that they are in the process of putting up an ftp server. These things take time however. > Sorry , I'm so full of answers I forgot the questions I was going to ask. heh heh. I like that one. Mike A. Harris | http://blackwidow.saultc.on.ca/~mharris Computer Consultant | My webpage has moved and my address has changed. My dynamic address: http://blackwidow.saultc.on.ca/~mharris/ip-address.html mailto:mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca 4DOS is a very powerful COMMAND.COM replacement with over 80 commands!