Message-Id: <199701212352.AAA04113@math.amu.edu.pl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Mark Habersack" Organization: What? (Poznan, Poland) To: "Mike A. Harris" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:09:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [opendos] Re: OpenDOS to be released next week! (fwd) Reply-to: grendel AT ananke DOT amu DOT edu DOT pl CC: "Mike A. Harris" , opendos AT mail DOT tacoma DOT net Sender: owner-opendos AT mail DOT tacoma DOT net Precedence: bulk Once upon a time (on 20 Jan 97 at 21:17) Mike A. Harris said: > > Hehe. That's not even including the tools directory with the stuff needed > > to build it in its current form. That's another 2700 files. *grin* > > How much disk space does the entire subdirectory tree consume? I mean > including all sources and things needed to compile them. And including slack on a FAT disk with 32KB clusters, please! ;-) > > blaster drivers, cd rom driver, mouse driver and LAN workplace drivers > > loaded high, I still have 629k TPA as reported by mem. If I forgo the use > > of VGA graphics, I can crank it up to 719k. Let's see QEMM and MS-DOG do > > THAT! *Evil Grin* > > really use DV anymore, but MSCDEX REFUSES to load HIGH!!!!!!!! I've got 64k > of contiguous UMB memory and MSCDEX is only using 12k! It WONT load into > UMB's! However if I unload a few other drivers, then MSCDEX will load HIGH. Try to use NWCDEX. It's a free Novell MSCDEX work-alike. If you can't find it, I can email you the executable (20577 bytes packed with RAR). > I guess it needs like a meg of startup memory or something before it shrinks > to 12k. Also QEMM has the VIDRAM program which lets you get up to 730k of > memory for apps if you don't use graphics. You can enable/disable this on > the fly without rebooting. I don't have much use for it though. And who doesn't use graphics? Besides Vidram makes some programs go nuts (itself goes nuts). > Regardless, it sounds like OpenDOS does ALL of this PLUS much much more! And > it sounds like it does it better too! I can't wait to see my progs all > loaded above 1M! Hey, I got 20Megs of RAM! I don't want to suffer anymore > with 589k in DOS! And you have the sources! And you can change whatever you like! And you can be sure that new features will be constantly added! And you don't have to call some rude M$ Hot-Line employee who doesn't know what is 'expansion slot'! And it's free! And you have the sources! - err... that was before... ;-)) > > > Besides LFN support will be here before long. I don't use '95, but I > > > would like to have LFN's in DOS because I'm a Linux nut now. > > Isn't that the truth.... > They said, "All good things will come to those who wait." Well, we've > been waiting, and waiting, and waiting, and now we will reap the rewards of > not supporting Microsloth. And, eventually, take over part of M$ OS market! ;-) > > > True. Perhaps someday WINE will be complete. :o) > > Or perhaps WINE will become part of GEM....*smile* > > There you go again with those acronyms that I've never heard of. Ok, I'll > bite... What does GEM stand for? What does it do? Where can I get more > info? Should I sit down and foam at the mouth over it too? AFAIR, GEM was/is a graphical user environment by Digital Research on which Micro$oft based it's first versions of Losedows (AFAIR the case was in court). And, AFAIR, GEM was also an operating system on some 8-bit computer (was it Atari) - but I'm not sure of that. Gene, am I right about anything of the above? > Can you tell me where I can get a GIF or JPEG of the Caldera OpenDOS logo? I > want to plaster it on my webpage. I'd like various sizes to choose from if > possible. Also, I want to do whatever else I can to inform others of > alternatives to M$. So far, I managed to get only Caldera logos (it was hard - I had to point my webbrowser to their homepage... ;-))) -----------Visit http://ananke.amu.edu.pl/~grendel------------- On promenades where drunks propose to lonely arcade mannequins, where ceremonies pause at the jewellers shop display feigning casual silence in strained romantic interludes till they commit themselves to the muted journey home. And the pool player rests on another cue. Last night's hero picking up his dues, a honeymoon gambled on a richochet...