X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=PlWBW3+bH1TnjSEGeTckwDI/s+CpVR++N72S+svtX1Q=; b=NQp5z0f+yCWbhE5HLJwij9r0WO8dsvMnfzMgPazc9d9jkwkfAJRCjLMCK4VlsSU2gg AZgijxuKccYgV1PPqASkWPvfQILasEcZrzH5dSZDLSjfmOJ4hQEKvfgtEZ5tQOxgiHNF LKW+Q48KJfJ7DAoL7dsZuHRJbNwvexJrcJh/RVTZgffDqLXKacg+KXTSTQd0tLaf/mL+ r0sFaspilvpv7LFbdVMsgtd3WHKnRLows/HTG5+jid8owZy0qJFNdlqLTQpHWRJctGTp nU9tvMiv1d2fOyhyFIS17Ar9FN3N18Ba6J5JExMlTQ3V+mARssNWaApBAnMCkPdKKBbv Btdg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=PlWBW3+bH1TnjSEGeTckwDI/s+CpVR++N72S+svtX1Q=; b=MeLEpV8UrRhkYGTEs6mxX7M8HyFa9HbvBm3lBpnR5LMwbS3zXUeJTcjZ6ckKasKsbY BOxC1W5WkZW2WkvmyH33p7338y6n60d/kzYinGKR8+uKuhEOz/ypto24FlolAzhHdzPE QpUzu3Ob7SaUyNU8icS4Dd9udooKc3JcsbUhUGTf69F+MEh9rZqhDZ1HUZE/H4VMMb9J 7OEgf3pk32Apr8eIafx4ixUJMKV0endLfEr4aktDG7RYNTQC7GtTy2aQuWULNAutDIRi 3137O4twXqLgKZm9HmLni8K+EGltxxNuR/FiKeepm8V/DAnGoBmqS5+U/4KFzR3u0F4w x7gw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FVHkFbAORjOxx/2DD5WAeGMaR2+p2cxqBEfH6qaKws0CVe/W1EFvB0NbDbeSBdrhSTwyGEBBSjap1P53A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.7.197 with SMTP id 188mr32832879wmh.101.1463593943591; Wed, 18 May 2016 10:52:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <573CA784.1060103@neurotica.com> References: <573C9E22 DOT 9050609 AT neurotica DOT com> <573CA1C7 DOT 3080402 AT iee DOT org> <573CA784 DOT 1060103 AT neurotica DOT com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 09:52:23 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Freerouting? From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On 05/18/2016 01:09 PM, M. J. Everitt (m DOT j DOT everitt AT iee DOT org) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>> Hey folks. What is the current state of Freerouting with gEDA/PCB? >>> Are we able to interface to it at all, in any way? >>> >>> (We discussed this at length about two years ago, and, predictably, >>> the discussion devolved into another argument that had little to do with >>> the subject at hand.) >> >> Can't beat a good bit of bike-shedding ... *eg* > > Exactly. I spent hours googling, and I found that several people had > worked on DSN/Specctra interfaces, and, as was also very predictable, > they can be found in about six completely different and unrelated places > on the net. > > This is really quite ridiculous. > > I have been a daily gEDA/PCB user for fourteen years, in both personal > and professional contexts. Over that time, the projects have become so > incoherent and incohesive (is that even a word?) that even I, having > used it every day for nearly a decade and a half, cannot figure out > what's going on. It seems that there is no "one true" gEDA or PCB! > > Note well that I'm not sitting here complaining that nobody will step > up and do a ton of work to improve something that's free. It'd just be > really nice if people would just stop creating these additional > repositories with patches and fixes and plugins and blah blah blah that > will (inexplicably!) never get merged into the main package, instead > there are half a dozen completely different packages, being worked on by > different people with different divergent feature sets, that all claim > to be gEDA or PCB. > > Is it really impossible for people to work TOGETHER on this project? This situation really is quite a bit better now. DJ and Bert make a good effort to integrate branches, and the author of the big fork (pcb-rnd) makes a reasonable effort to make his stuff usable by main line if anyone troubles to pick it up. Britton