X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sMvHLodte98nE3fR3vd3682okxkdMjyrBtGAVcvjFII=; b=p3rphUtGLVeb/6Xe4aDkY6qyElBtolXyuP673a+Mh9Wg5CspAHnDeXNZTb95nhRGek jV7I9TBRnfnsyNBNSz+MY77TQHVlQUCdZxYFow4crLkSvtnWIvG3se+aMLmDZ7m0VCmH u5IMRRHVZbHuvtsfSnvjfNErzb2LLNlbf1rfaO3/ftygLq048W4GnJ58GUxXRxtB0MQs wDzIVFXewvfUeBJV5+iuRiEzPsv4HFe81g2FIiR96VZLh6HCM6OLpJ33GyLRMo2z+fFi Q7LvXUK72ErQh+9VqqSzrXOO86Wwjd0qyQNAyfYqZOVDzuA1MV635GVG/aQAE7AztiHx 2BcA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sMvHLodte98nE3fR3vd3682okxkdMjyrBtGAVcvjFII=; b=JxEXR125T771TEeAzTOQfDAt/p7YfVMrLe8tXCuw76sIDEHwvrE00UhwFaRFwJg+mD tcWp6DlboYwE70iiGnFo0PkR6NjkeeP1rtNfYqprf4gKyk+SPz6msSB0N3c3BiGV/ryN 313+cAupUS4owr9lY6/eQmU7VSqnkNWYRmtiS6vlWjEnjcuTK3rVkrfVZeHCKOrJZufv l2H3FXczjt3MwJPmR1bXH+FPdz1PBaLUD+seC21yjQ5/u5U3x/nnFD5qhiIReLypOKx0 0nMgza5AXgCRNQTmkZ6GQlFgf3YHHGa8jOcbHcfcLP5T5EoVG3F2yn5fpeZ0wU5BISkY IzVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKdWKwjJWUdsV0YG9dYUHrF0G0IccLASG3yROak0u91AGqzuxqArNKVIJ17i/8YXA== X-Received: by 10.194.112.34 with SMTP id in2mr13320963wjb.160.1456701799203; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 15:23:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 00:23:13 +0100 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb import schematic --> pcb's model Message-Id: <20160229002313.f794ae8736d80b3188aed800@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2DE900EA-9406-40F8-A225-24BD09B3C20A@noqsi.com> References: <20160215215221 DOT fd472794e7b9446a243bfc40 AT gmail DOT com> <201602160805 DOT u1G85d8c003148 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20160216092912 DOT 7f7439f703b49175a21dbb1b AT gmail DOT com> <201602161715 DOT u1GHFMBB028078 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201602162032 DOT u1GKWL7Y005291 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <59CE9019-7A! 56-49D6-BC2B-680A7253B055 AT noqsi DOT com> <1771F6F4-1235-4D24-9015-2C9A04EB2117 AT noqsi DOT com> <2DE900EA-9406-40F8-A225-24BD09B3C20A AT noqsi DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > > If you mean it can only make pcbs you're correct, but since that's all it's > > supposed to do that's hardly surprising. The abstractions it uses are > > quite suitable for the purpose. > > No they are not. Suitable abstractions would allow the user to draw a buried via, for example. Yes suitable abstractions would allow. > > If it was a "stack of materials" editor > > it wouldn't work to make pcbs, since stacking up a bunch of materials won't > > result in a pcb. > > But PCBs commonly contain structures that pcb cannot represent, so pcb’s model is deficient. Yes pcb's model must be improved so it can represent all structures used in circuit boards. Nicklas Karlsson