X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a7LEqFtdIBPTqledRAAXcz1ygf7/EThYOqo6h0TohKM=; b=V5G1NURFEAPB+lsZwf/Tb4QAlkrMr+I/UUajGc4G5U6wk/X8+v0mFvsZSF3N64nsvi SeEdL/yKHDcOuXRPC28G6ifTQZ8aYmhXnRT/ZyRDvkJanyllcqoreCir1VL9As2nBvEP BwUybgkdV/YYIFxW+SowKgil13GcDCscUOpz5ZsmfiR2sevDi50eriOtHaXHNJ2NoKbB HxZV/kwv9qfLfkZG7l8gDicmpb8HiF3QDxYEZM1N2983BpR5XI/JzbpvhDVJwIL1Edx1 JQPhNTwWwK4Tk3Z55jR8Q7WnkdnKxFrMG0k495AtWvOw0MYU9nd7z8vtQ5JxHe4kdfH1 cFMA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.200.229 with SMTP id jv5mr13994678lbc.123.1445735161755; Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:06:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201510220136 DOT t9M1a5Uw015222 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201510220149 DOT t9M1nrIe016145 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151022023002 DOT GA25952 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> <201510221643 DOT t9MGhFfg003310 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151022170259 DOT GA28154 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> <20151024050756 DOT GA5741 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> <201510240528 DOT t9O5S5qc019927 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:06:01 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Star shorts From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t9P167Eb013438 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Stephan Böttcher (geda AT psjt DOT org) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > > DJ Delorie writes: > >> Of course, anything like this would predicate a new DRC :-( > > DRC should be something that can also be applied to the Gerber layout, > i.e., it should look at the actual copper. No need for a new DRC. > > The star ground is a netlist issue, LVS. That is part of 'optimize rats > nest' in pcb. > > I think is is good to keep that distinction, between DRC and LVS. > > If some copper object is designated as the connection between two ground > nets, the 'optimize rats nest' sees two nets and the requirement that > both connect to that object, and that there are no further connections > betwenn the nets. > > I don't see that there is much that needs changing. Maybe not much more > than a flag on a layer (belonging to a copper group), or a via/pin, that > says: Ignore this for LVS. The copper object can be part of a > component, to represent the required connections. Allow a pin or pad to > have two or more pinnumbers. > > My ground nets newer connect in a star topology. There are power return Mine do and what I am talking about will add a lot of other functionality that I think people will use. Wouldn't you like to have route as bus as an option? > routing, chassis ground, analog reference ground, digital reference > ground. And often there need to be multiple conections between the > those ground nets, e.g., close to each ADC between analog and digital > ground. > > -- > Stephan -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/