X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nHYnBJdwWl5QJl77hxb10CdTs2+AtrXBxUZVQsXefZs=; b=xpKvAgeOXHFhVp/UuPlJayFE2hBG0U4AATwRQj1Moz6Fgfzes0YOFdllx1jOVRdjFU qEM+pDoxZJtLx6i+G53sEFXfU8rHCwKf8x1a3FxmxmiSU1snGSfCN3bx+62ketXayYPR QK2IK9kmZwE6BNw18jb+1APImd4WmNxuve9e1R3BGKhouwIBwJk5yvdiayvQMl23YzcL as24BzQ77CyAfTa4bYBbSuhJHp5bxuGDrjphY1Zpjue6h+1JJ67zcSt/c8lOCZ7zZvBe YkdiToADmyBZs5RXRlHQBZrmvJIWHRQlIq5oKbTXoL6rfsamlwNPVq88V1aAdF8tirWn CEYQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.8.227 with SMTP id u3mr27510247wja.38.1445659827212; Fri, 23 Oct 2015 21:10:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20151022170259.GA28154@recycle.lbl.gov> References: <201510220112 DOT t9M1Ccfq013731 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201510220136 DOT t9M1a5Uw015222 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201510220149 DOT t9M1nrIe016145 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151022023002 DOT GA25952 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> <201510221643 DOT t9MGhFfg003310 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151022170259 DOT GA28154 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:10:27 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d9c077799690522d1e8a0 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --047d7b5d9c077799690522d1e8a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Larry Doolittle wrote: > DJ - > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:43:15PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > One of our old problems is "how to tell where a short really is". > > Perhaps that problem and "where is a star ground" are really the same > > problem? We'd just need some way of saying "we expect these nets to > > be shorted". > > No, that's the wrong answer, since it's exactly the same as having > one net. We're looking for a way to say "we expect these nets to be > shorted _in_exactly_one_place". And an acceptable solution involves > specifying where that place is. > Having been working on DRC lately I can confirm that this would be extremely painful to implement. I don't think its worth it, compared to putting a symbol into the schematic to record the limited nature of the connection as John suggests. This approach avoids any new implementation work and maintains as invariant the normal meaning of connectivity at the interface level. --047d7b5d9c077799690522d1e8a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Larry Doolittle <= ldoolitt AT recy= cle.lbl.gov> wrote:
DJ -

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:43:15PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
> One of our old problems is "how to tell where a short really is&q= uot;.
> Perhaps that problem and "where is a star ground" are really= the same
> problem?=C2=A0 We'd just need some way of saying "we expect t= hese nets to
> be shorted".

No, that's the wrong answer, since it's exactly the sam= e as having
one net.=C2=A0 We're looking for a way to say "we expect these net= s to be
shorted _in_exactly_one_place".=C2=A0 And an acceptable solution invol= ves
specifying where that place is.
=C2=A0
Having been working on DRC lately I can confirm that this would be ex= tremely painful to implement.=C2=A0 I don't think its worth it, compare= d to putting a symbol into the schematic to record the limited nature of th= e connection as John suggests.=C2=A0 This approach avoids any new implement= ation work and maintains as invariant the normal meaning of connectivity at= the interface level.

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