X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rTcxje4AJHjGhklnEARvjst0++9jxuPI1XsP9jhPB9I=; b=Pm/yLYBHcYNbsR7Y0iB7y+OpVH3GDxHQA7vnJYcZ8bV1/kcFRUeSzS1yh13MyMsL9B bamIUFYP16XT7UppnqFE0Ph5MUcIlWcRmmqCBY98MmI0xo7BLVlCtt1FpXkGPptK/O+q M0wK/DISwJp8Wd22LXclfH6MYxveAfwatD44OjZKPUw/cTOLgZiHxE4DC/jx4l0PY4gy JeN9Ii2LSvMT8WZeYThyujyanMizAQondonsm0Z56+RXCyMBXAHEmva+fTxYT8VsvOZ6 3uSOp5pz8Mp6ghnBS9hbclO6Ol2c9Xy6fABUldc8IZTdoHnVlGuxvAIwC7WNvuxewyTT knVg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.180.230 with SMTP id dr6mr8569959lbc.72.1445524890184; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20151022113635.GA16105@visitor2.iram.es> References: <201510220112 DOT t9M1Ccfq013731 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201510220136 DOT t9M1a5Uw015222 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201510220149 DOT t9M1nrIe016145 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20151022023002 DOT GA25952 AT recycle DOT lbl DOT gov> <20151022090751 DOT ecb5bc25c7d968646dea2e85 AT gmail DOT com> <20151022113635 DOT GA16105 AT visitor2 DOT iram DOT es> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:41:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Gabriel Paubert (paubert AT iram DOT es) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:19:32PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> Nicklas Karlsson wrote: >> >> > Yes, only problem with star ground symbol in gschem is how many pins >> > it should have. In pcb for many cases it would make sense with one >> > common connection point. >> > >> Last time this topic surfaced on the mailing list the most practical >> suggestion was to exploit a pecularity of text in copper: >> The connection check of geda-pcb completely ignores letters. Insert a >> large "-" and make regular tracks overlap with the character but not >> connect to each other. >> >> This is of course an abuse of a missing feature (connection check of >> strings in copper) which might break if/when somebody takes the time >> to fix it. But at least it works now. >> >> And it gives a hint for a second best solution: Add a tag "ignore-for- >> connection-check" which can be attached to a track segment. This would >> of course also not check for unwanted connections to the tagged >> segment. But since it is an explicit localized exception, the risk is >> manageable. After all, we live with not connection checked text all >> the time... > > Indeed, having "non-conductive copper" is probably the best solution, it > also allows to build some RF structures like directional couplers. I support "ignore-connection-check" as an attribute for nets but not "non-conductive copper" because it is poor taste linguistically. There are two ways to look at this. 1. A complete lack of understanding in PCB of what the structure you are making is and apply the "ignore-connection-check" attribute 2. A functional understanding in PCB of what the structures are with hierachical nets that have properties describing what you are doing. As much as I like #2 the reality is that we will always be playing catchup to what people are working with so it makes sense to do both. > Gabriel -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/