X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com From: Kai-Martin Knaak Subject: Re: [geda-user] Clutterless user interface or even more custom special super features? Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2015 03:56:23 +0200 Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <56100AF8 DOT 4090802 AT jump-ing DOT de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet AT ger DOT gmane DOT org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: a89-182-107-162.net-htp.de User-Agent: KNode/4.14.1 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Markus Hitter wrote: > .. I learned that there are no less than three special modes for > ignoring text, hiding text and/or ignoring anything but text exist. My use cases: 1) "lock names" Many of my SMD symbols have their text placed right in the middle of the silk artwork. This makes it easy to recognize which symbol the text belongs to. I tend to shrink my boards as much as sensible to decrease the cost of production. More often than not this results in not enough open space to put refdes or value outside the footprints. So text inside the footprints is the only way to go, anyway. With the text inside it becomes hard to grab and move a footprint rather than just its text. So I habitually always activate "only names" during placement. BTW, the string "only names" tends to confuse new users at my place. They don't automatically associate a value with a "name". What this flag really is about is "text". In addition, text is not actually locked in place. It will move in parallel with the footprint. The flag is really more an ignore. How about "ignore text"? 2) "only names" Once done with placement and routing I like to add some finishing touches to the silk layer. At this stage I generally don't want to manipulate the position of footprints. So an option to ignore everything but text comes handy. In the same vein as above I propose to rename of this option to read "only text". 3) "hide names" Manual routing of densely populated boards benefits from as little graphical distraction in the main window as possible. Since I let the rats guide me, refdes strings or values are not needed and just clutter the view. Deactivating the silk layer completely is an inferior option because the silk artwork provides valuable hints as to where components are. It would prevent me from moving footprints, too. In summary, I am glad all three modes exist. I'd even contemplate to extend the concept. E.g, shift-click a layer button to ignore it for mouse driven actions but still keep it visible. ---<)kaimartin(>---