X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at neurotica.com Message-ID: <50A9BFC9.8010100@neurotica.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:12:41 -0500 From: Dave McGuire User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121028 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Thoughts on gschem UI References: <50A688B8 DOT 4090809 AT neurotica DOT com> <50A6A265 DOT 6050300 AT neurotica DOT com> <4E8E6F31-EF8D-4540-BA86-7935C1C3E6D8 AT noqsi DOT com> <50A6A95C DOT 5030903 AT neurotica DOT com> <355DEF4F-51BB-44A8-A5F4-D8564E7E7885 AT noqsi DOT com> <20121116213601 DOT 13718 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <66889AAB-3A82-4861-ACB0-B35A876EF6F4 AT noqsi DOT com> <50A83AAA DOT 6060500 AT jump-ing DOT de> <50A8615E DOT 2080800 AT neurotica DOT com> <05730E0F-4DA1-47C8-80BB-5D4F37EFD94E AT noqsi DOT com> <50A8675D DOT 30509 AT neurotica DOT com> <565D7E6F-DC3C-42E8-A069-519129E281BF AT noqsi DOT com> <50A90BC7 DOT 8080901 AT neurotica DOT com> <50A92363 DOT 8060607 AT neurotica DOT com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 11/18/2012 10:32 PM, John Doty wrote: >> The internals of gschem haven't been completely rewritten in a long >> time, if at all, yet from about 2004-2007 it morphed from a program >> which I found very difficult to use to a program which I find very >> EASY to use. > > Interesting. I started using it in 2002, and haven't really seen any > great improvement in usability. I started with it right around that time, perhaps late 2001. I noticed *tremendous* improvements in usability over those years. > It was good then, and is good now. > Mostly, I've been hurt by unanticipated consequences of > "improvements". At least some of the worst ideas (e.g. magnetic net > mode) can be turned off by the rc files. Well yeah, I turn off magnetic net mode too. But seriously, you've seen no usability improvements? I dunno about you, man...but when I dislike something this much, I dump it. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA