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OK, simply renaming symlinks doesn't work -- which is not completely 
unexpected.

I think I'll have to dig deeper into lepton and see if I can find any 
information about how to make it play nice with pcb.


Op 31-12-2024 om 13:03 schreef Richard Rasker:
>
> I did some more digging, and I noticed that gnet-pcbfwd.scm contains 
> references to gnetlist. On the crashed system, gnetlist was installed 
> in /usr/local/bin, together with a lot of other gEDA stuff:
>
> ~/root_backup/usr/local/bin$ ls
> *gafgarchivegattribgnetlistgnetlist-legacygrenumgsch2pcbgschemgschlasgsymcheckgsymfixgxyrsMerge_dimPCBPSMergePCBPSpcbpcb_backannotaterefdes_renumschdifftragesymxorn
> *
>
> In the new installation, I located many of these files in /usr/bin, 
> now with a 'lepton-' prefix:
>
> $ cd /usr/bin
> $ ls lepton*
> lepton-archivelepton-clilepton-embedlepton-netlistlepton-refdes_renumlepton-schdifflepton-shelllepton-symfixlepton-upcfg
> lepton-attriblepton-configlepton-exportlepton-pcb_backannotatelepton-sch2pcblepton-schematiclepton-symchecklepton-tragesymlepton-update
>
> Now if these differently named files are indeed the problem, the 
> question is how I can fix this in the cleanest way possible.
>
> I'm tempted to create symlinks with the 'old' names (in most cases 
> simply replacing 'lepton-' with 'g'), but that feels rather messy, and 
> it may also fail when these newer scripts are not compatible with 
> calls from this slightly older pcb version. Would perhaps a newer pcb 
> version find these lepton files automatically? Then I think the best 
> way forward is to build it from source.
>
> Anyway, I think I'll try the renamed symlinks first, as they can be 
> easily removed again, and then see what I can find wrt. pcb versions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
>
> Op 30-12-2024 om 19:47 schreef Richard Rasker:
>> Op 30-12-2024 om 18:37 schreef DJ Delorie (dj AT delorie DOT com) [via 
>> geda-user AT delorie DOT com]:
>>> You need to find the gnet-pcbfwd.scm from the pcb package (wherever it's
>>> installed) and at least symlink it from the share/gEDA/scheme/ directory
>>> where lepton put all its gnet-*.scm files
>>
>> OK:
>>
>> $ locate gnet-pcbfwd.scm
>> /usr/share/gEDA/scheme/gnet-pcbfwd.scm
>>
>> $ locate gnet- | grep lepton
>> /usr/share/lepton-eda/scheme/backend/gnet-PCB.scm
>> [...]
>> /usr/share/lepton-eda/scheme/backend/gnet-vipec.scm
>>
>> $ cd /usr/share/lepton-eda/scheme/backend/
>> $ sudo ln -s /usr/share/gEDA/scheme/gnet-pcbfwd.scm
>>
>> But alas, no go, same error as before (Could not open action file 
>> "/tmp/pcb.XXRMf2PY/gnetlist_output").
>>
>> As expected, physically copying the file to /usr/gEDA/share also does 
>> not make a difference.
>>
>> FWIW, version information, pcb:
>>
>>     This is PCB, an interactive printed circuit board editor
>>     version 4.2.2
>>     Compiled on Aug 17 2021 at 02:34:03
>>     by harry eaton
>>
>> Lepton:
>>
>>     Lepton-schematic 1.9.18 (git: d24967d)
>>
>> Is there any other information that might be helpful?
>>
>> Anyway, thank you for the quick reply - and I hope that a solution 
>> can be found, because this functionality is rather important to me 
>> ... If needed, I can of course also build pcb and an older gschem 
>> version, but that's quite a hassle too because of all the 
>> dependencies and development packages that need to be installed.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Richard
>>
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>
> Richard Rasker
> -- 
> Linetec
> Akkerstafhof 15
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Met vriendelijke groeten,

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    <p>OK, simply renaming symlinks doesn't work -- which is not
      completely unexpected.</p>
    <p>I think I'll have to dig deeper into lepton and see if I can find
      any information about how to make it play nice with pcb.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 31-12-2024 om 13:03 schreef Richard
      Rasker:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:63a5b652-92d5-43c1-8242-b87257364edc AT linetec DOT nl">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <p>I did some more digging, and I noticed that gnet-pcbfwd.scm
        contains references to gnetlist. On the crashed system, gnetlist
        was installed in /usr/local/bin, together with a lot of other
        gEDA stuff:</p>
      <p><span style="font-family:monospace"><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">~/root_backup/usr/local/bin</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">$ ls </span><br>
          <b><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">gaf</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">garchive</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">gattrib</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">gnetlist</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">gnetlist-legacy</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">grenum</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">gsch2pcb</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">gschem</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">gschlas</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">gsymcheck</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">gsymfix</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">gxyrs</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Merge_dimPCBPS</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">MergePCBPS</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">pcb</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">pcb_backannotate</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">refdes_renum</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">schdiff</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">tragesym</span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
              style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">xorn</span><br>
          </b></span></p>
      <p>In the new installation, I located many of these files in
        /usr/bin, now with a 'lepton-' prefix:</p>
      <p><span style="font-family:monospace"><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">$ cd /usr/bin<br>
          </span></span><span style="font-family:monospace"><span
            style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">$ ls lepton*
          </span><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></span><br>
          <span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-archive</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-cli</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">     </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-embed</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">   </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-netlist</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">           </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-refdes_renum</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-schdiff</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">    </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-shell</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">     </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-symfix</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">    </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-upcfg</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </span><br>
          <span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-attrib</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">   </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-config</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-export</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-pcb_backannotate</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-sch2pcb</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">       </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-schematic</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-symcheck</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-tragesym</span><span
            style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">  </span><span
style="font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">lepton-update</span><br>
        </span></p>
      <p>Now if these differently named files are indeed the problem,
        the question is how I can fix this in the cleanest way possible.</p>
      <p>I'm tempted to create symlinks with the 'old' names (in most
        cases simply replacing 'lepton-' with 'g'), but that feels
        rather messy, and it may also fail when these newer scripts are
        not compatible with calls from this slightly older pcb version.
        Would perhaps a newer pcb version find these lepton files
        automatically? Then I think the best way forward is to build it
        from source.<br>
      </p>
      <p>Anyway, I think I'll try the renamed symlinks first, as they
        can be easily removed again, and then see what I can find wrt.
        pcb versions.<br>
      </p>
      <p>Regards,</p>
      <p>Richard<br>
      </p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 30-12-2024 om 19:47 schreef
        Richard Rasker:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite"
        cite="mid:08a6ccd6-2543-4d41-a34f-42495341db50 AT linetec DOT nl">
        <meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
          content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 30-12-2024 om 18:37 schreef DJ
          Delorie (<a
            class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="mailto:dj AT delorie DOT com" moz-do-not-send="true">dj AT delorie DOT com</a>)
          [via <a
            class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" moz-do-not-send="true">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>]:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote type="cite"
          cite="mid:xnwmfh137v DOT fsf AT envy DOT delorie DOT com">
          <pre wrap="" class="moz-quote-pre">You need to find the gnet-pcbfwd.scm from the pcb package (wherever it's
installed) and at least symlink it from the share/gEDA/scheme/ directory
where lepton put all its gnet-*.scm files</pre>
        </blockquote>
        <p>OK:</p>
        <span style="font-family:monospace"><span
            style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">$ locate
            gnet-pcbfwd.scm</span><br>
          /usr/share/gEDA/scheme/gnet-pcbfwd.scm<br>
        </span><br>
        <span style="font-family:monospace"><span
            style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">$ locate
            gnet- | grep lepton </span></span><br>
        <span style="font-family:monospace">/usr/share/<span
style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff5454;background-color:#ffffff;">lepton</span><span
            style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">-eda/scheme/backend/gnet-PCB.scm
          </span></span><br>
        <span style="font-family:monospace"><span
            style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">[...]</span></span><br>
        <span style="font-family:monospace">/usr/share/<span
style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff5454;background-color:#ffffff;">lepton</span><span
            style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">-eda/scheme/backend/gnet-vipec.scm</span></span><br>
        <br>
        <span style="font-family:monospace"><span
            style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">$ cd
            /usr/share/lepton-eda/scheme/backend/</span></span><br>
        <span style="font-family:monospace"><span
            style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"></span></span><span
          style="font-family:monospace"><span
            style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">$ sudo ln -s
            /usr/share/gEDA/scheme/gnet-pcbfwd.scm</span></span>
        <p><span style="font-family:monospace"><span
              style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;"></span></span>But
          alas, no go, same error as before (<font face="monospace">Could
            not open action file <span
              style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">"/tmp/pcb.XXRMf2PY/gnetlist_output"</span></font><span
            style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">).</span></p>
        <p><span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">As
            expected, physically copying the file to /usr/gEDA/share
            also does not make a difference.<br>
          </span></p>
        <p><span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">FWIW,
            version information, pcb:</span></p>
        <blockquote>
          <p><span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">This
              is PCB, an interactive printed circuit board editor<br>
              version 4.2.2<br>
              Compiled on Aug 17 2021 at 02:34:03<br>
              by harry eaton<br>
            </span></p>
        </blockquote>
        <p><span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Lepton:</span></p>
        <blockquote>
          <p><span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Lepton-schematic
              1.9.18 (git: d24967d)<br>
            </span></p>
        </blockquote>
        <p><span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Is
            there any other information that might be helpful?</span></p>
        <p><span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Anyway,
            thank you for the quick reply - and I hope that a solution
            can be found, because this functionality is rather important
            to me ... If needed, I can of course also build pcb and an
            older gschem version, but that's quite a hassle too because
            of all the dependencies and development packages that need
            to be installed.</span></p>
        <p><span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Thanks
            again,</span></p>
        <p><span style="color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;">Richard<br>
          </span></p>
      </blockquote>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Met vriendelijke groeten,

Richard Rasker
-- 
Linetec
Akkerstafhof 15
7544SP  Enschede
053-4350834
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linetec.nl/"
      moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.linetec.nl/</a></pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Met vriendelijke groeten,

Richard Rasker
-- 
Linetec
Akkerstafhof 15
7544SP  Enschede
053-4350834
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linetec.nl/">http://www.linetec.nl/</a></pre>
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