On Thu, 1= 2 Oct 2023 12:11 Dave McGuire (mcg= uire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-= user AT delorie DOT com], <geda-us= er AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

On 10= /9/23 23:35, DJ Delorie wrote:
> No significant commits in years.
>
> No releases in years.
>
> Subprojects moving away, or forking.
>
> Mailing lists are oddly quiet.
>
> Risks are arising about dependencies on obsolete toolkits.
>
> Nobody seems interested in maintaining it any more.
>
> I'm contemplating pulling the plug on the 12 year old server and > calling it a day.
>
> Anyone want to argue otherwise?=C2=A0 ;-)
>
> (and if you do, you'll likely end up owning it ;)

=C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm a long-time user and lover of geda and PCB; I've d= esigned
hundreds of boards with it over the past 20+ years, both commercially
and for personal projects.=C2=A0 Geda and PCB are very good programs, capab= le
of real production-quality results, i.e. not some hobbyist toy.=C2=A0 And <= br> since it's not subject to corporate whim and doesn't involve any Wi= ndows
BS, it's safe for the long term.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0But, I have to admit with no small amount of shame, that I mov= ed to
KiCad about two years ago.=C2=A0 I've designed about 35 boards with it,= and
it has been great.=C2=A0 I feel shame because geda/PCB has been developed b= y
people whom I consider to be friends, and for whom I have great respect, and honestly, I still love the software.=C2=A0 I don't like to abandon = things
(or people) that have been good to me.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0I moved to KiCad due to the great tool integration, excellent =
libraries, and excellent feature set.=C2=A0 The pace of development is rapi= d.
=C2=A0 KiCad was a hobbyist toy, I mean seriously it was a real pile of cra= p,
just a few short years ago.=C2=A0 Now it's absolutely fantastic.=C2=A0 = CERN
throwing its money and developers behind KiCad a few years ago really
turned it around.=C2=A0 It's a shame they didn't adopt geda/PCB ins= tead.=C2=A0 I
always wondered about that.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0I still need to keep geda and PCB running in order to access o= ld
designs.=C2=A0 Sometimes a client will contact me years later and request a=
variation of an existing design.=C2=A0 There's no practical way (none t= hat
I've found anyway) to import geda's schematics or PCB's board l= ayouts
into KiCad, so I just hope I can keep things running.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Between work and running the museum (LSSM), both of which are =
full-time jobs, I'm just too busy to take on a code maintenance project= ,
as much as I'd like to, and as much as I feel geda/PCB deserve my
support in that form.=C2=A0 What I can offer, though, is permanent server <= br> space for any and all list archives, sources, binaries, etc etc, if that is ever needed.=C2=A0 The network I run has been around for a very long tim= e
(it predates both Google and Yahoo by many years) and is stable.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0I do hope someone picks up the long-term maintenance of this c= ode.
It's important.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thank you to all who have worked on this over the years.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0With respect,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -Dave McGuire

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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA