X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=1a1hai; t=1696945776; bh=LHE4gVMIoqCbIk5VL7l1p9oofrVfqUTmoRCX5lF+VU4=; h=From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:To:Message-Id; b=rsQulOOUNOijvn4z/dCt2wpxLItf1GZr7Io+y3GdANk1/R83r9VGoxMtBnOFnKTr6 lTpvN1F2j1Qfp713gTFRovo43zm8lS5zzzKPuh+2mmiAfVHdnzqW+i+wm2T1BVRjYn p59Qofu1Mgg8opMVKsfVlGsYNNc9slxEflVEMjQkp8eeJr3nBSI8uoRbyJRAjBUnPA lq/lpLVKVuyvuO/CyPRYOUe175hiNRCMLDss5b66ACwPxt++0Xp2Z3UH5dta9ZJ24c IlJnmoyh3qNzoaOrw2Owdy9+w1MXKdnS2iZzD01IeF5NsTa5KqjsjI64KNQLgFmzxb eMIXaFohN950g== From: "Chris Smith (space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.100.2.1.4\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] is geda dead yet? Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:49:24 +0100 References: <202310100335 DOT 39A3Zn6W3486400 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <6DAB37C8-0CA1-4BFA-A11A-1526E6960708 AT icloud DOT com> <20231010120653 DOT 8ED068623BB4 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com In-Reply-To: <20231010120653.8ED068623BB4@turkos.aspodata.se> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.100.2.1.4) X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: HcFxVM9yhJhyxh2vgPd7jPibrZeP346q X-Proofpoint-GUID: HcFxVM9yhJhyxh2vgPd7jPibrZeP346q X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: =?UTF-8?Q?vendor=3Dfsecure_engine=3D1.1.170-22c6f66c430a71ce266a39bfe25bc?= =?UTF-8?Q?2903e8d5c8f:6.0.573,18.0.957,17.11.170.22.0000000_definitions?= =?UTF-8?Q?=3D2023-05-18=5F15:2023-05-17=5F02,2023-05-18=5F15,2023-02-09?= =?UTF-8?Q?=5F01_signatures=3D0?= X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxlogscore=752 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2212070000 definitions=main-2310100101 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id 39ADnbqT023913 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On 10 Oct 2023, at 13:06, karl AT aspodata DOT se [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Kicad's use of that format is faulty, in this I agree with Tibor Palinkas: > http://repo.hu/cgi-bin/pool.cgi?project=pcb-rnd&cmd=show&node=kicad_fmt_fun If I understand Tibor’s opinion correctly it is not the format that is faulty, but rather that KiCADs parser makes assumptions based on the expected output of its writer. > Good for you. Indeed. :) > For me, kicad fails due to > . inferiour hierarchical support In what way? > . no copy and paste between running programs > . difficult to run multiple instances of the same program You can only have one instance of the project manager running, but you can open up multiple copies of the individual programs and copy-paste between them, which is fair comparison to geda given the latter’s lack of a project manager to start with. > at least up to v.5.1.9. Which is nearly four years old now. The current version is 7.0.8. Regards, Chris — Chris Smith