X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1696938080; x=1697542880; darn=delorie.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=SijRmxUL3KmAWvFAE42XdXbVEiczZWl5uoxyIykly4Q=; b=nmwozE9t/zFUEsFyQrRsKHGK/lFJK1mAdmeqOE5taf32uzMjqMWfWxFPwhEojUm/zO PJ/YDwZt5itF7vD/zAFXjxT7LmO3L0BBSHKQFqojyNgBvJjd/nDxw/RscrTsTrwUES3J zRhacCtzyhnNYhfphRpoQdXP5mlzw1BWfETrBQL+VbV5ojkudGACQB36kfD5Vzz6l85g C3CbKAV9dTl2hlMCciAHpDPiBVzVlw4ah9MjMRSNbXwV1ksmSm2HrrFXiv747gtTvpyB OGQALi8LXiYu6WdCuigSHWZ7VrzCLGcBMs/8OiSIHHcZhvUDcuvCOiJbKUgs5cUfVRsi AdLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1696938080; x=1697542880; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SijRmxUL3KmAWvFAE42XdXbVEiczZWl5uoxyIykly4Q=; b=WK2DfExHhRDHK/Z6b/hS9cXGSQCllk+h0gN7fJDsItTWgZB/X8xdC523Qy6DzLrQwk WzjmJHdlu4r52lTrU4oQrJR8i1/TzTl3jAgJK89QfYL8JV+iYXMcd790KJUwSZ8KFFwr hug72I8lZIwLBWsTEZhtyZrGhN5G5gxWrVf191uCzZwyncEGZWjAxqnYnuTgQyNO4DDq INjkrIrOV/t/fY08gmX4s99pevGFbdo09pSy0yZz2GZM63zNs7SXORfdH/zzIibpeX+I Cbs5wbeAXGoLph7zVKSowS+ZMsdOV5Nu1D41FC+78OwrX5R7FnR2T6jSDh40+i8b7rkd 4Vwg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yznvc/qLlvDpjP6bmX3ALZZCSPjk5yxw2j1x8f9gqoGyDFaeiJl NZ+QIt2XINbaaCYvVuiox44X4WfPCkhQ/CwaIgg2dFJg X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF/QY4GdLn48e8o143tFaF3Zw2KjecvIxJp7ggvZKbwHtRm+scrSFR33+yOaylifIh1Gq/mBywVNgdJW4HT7wY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:8b:b0:9b2:b149:b81a with SMTP id 11-20020a170906008b00b009b2b149b81amr18257796ejc.64.1696938080470; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 04:41:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 04:41:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] is geda dead yet? To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id 39ABfNs6017747 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 9:43 PM DJ Delorie wrote: > > "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" > writes: > > Well I still use it > > I appreciate that there are still some users of these programs, but > without developers, they will quickly become unusable as distros upgrade > toolkits and geda starts failing to build. As someone else suggested I'd accept that it's frozen and look to incorporate old dependencies that distros may stop supporting. Since devel is essentially stopped there's little down-the-road cost to doing it that way, though still the up-front work of course. > Users of gschem and pcb are probably best served by switching to one of > the forks, like lepton and pcb-rnd, which have active development. pcb-rnd has added too many features without enough users or testing to get them all right and it's sluggish compared to pcb. It's where I'd go if forced but otherwise no. I don't need pcb to do anything different than it already does, as long as it keeps building that's enough. Britton